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just dropped out of google

why between updates?

     
11:40 am on Jun 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi

One of our main sites has vanished in the last week. During the last few days, its been there one minute but gone the next, now it really seems to have vanished. This could not have come at a worse time, its like a nightmare...

What I'm confused about is the timing. Normally sites get dropped (for whatever reason) during an update - so why now? Any ideas?

6:06 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've not posted before but this topic is so distressing for me I just had to say somthing.

My two sites have fallen off the 'serps map' and I hope they return. These were good, no spam sites (unless the 'good' technics learned here are now 'bad').

Jon_King for your poll:

E) Much Lower

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E
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After a long period of high rankings, several of my pages
have been removed from Google's index.

The pages removed were from lower level folders.
For example:
www.domain.com/a/b/c/

All pages removed were in the c level.
I don't know of anything I did to the site to
trigger this event.

This happened in mid-May and traffic from Google dropped
to near zero.

Freshbot has visited since and oddly enough hit those
delisted pages.

I have been reading the forums here and remain concerned.
Lucky for me it is a hobby site and not for profit.

If the reason to delist my pages was the depth
of folders, that seems a very unreliable method to
base a search engine upon.

[edited by: blueburd at 7:59 pm (utc) on June 9, 2003]

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Yidaki, sorry I do hope the best for all even if I compete with me I like a little competion, but ofcause the legal way only clean seo.

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6:59 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Gently and kindly he asks, please back to the topic.

In general would you say your post-Dominic sites rank:

a) Much higher
b) Higher
c) About the same
d) Lower
e) Much lower

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c) about the same - in regards to positions in the SERPs
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E
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c)
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All sites up. In fact, yesterday Google moved ahead of MSN for the first time. Love MSN:). Probably would have happened in May but I suffered from a three day bout with Dominitis from which I fully recovered. Still some interior pages missing external backlinks which has a severe affect because they have so few external backlinks.
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same:

New Sites

E

6/12 mth old sites

D

12mths +

C

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D) Lower
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B)
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Lower - e)

Lost two places to two previously filtered out sites. Sitting in our old (#1) spot on -sj tho'...

7:32 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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C)
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C)
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d) lower
to
e) much lower

Traffic has also gone down - about 25%. Some of this decrease may be due to normal summer slowdown - but it started about a month earlier than usual.

Site is over a year and half old. Clean site - no tricks.

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About the same
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Your question is too simple, Jon, because what used to be important to me is now not as important to me, unfortunately.

I've gone done considerably on my best, highest authority pages (links from universities, publications, etc)... but I've achieved #1 rankings for my fresh pages, which are only linked from my site.

The bizarre conclusion is Google considers new stuff on my domain to have authority and rates it highly, but doesn't like me having exterior authority links to older pages and lowers their ranking.

The grade of course is "F", but if the question really is about traffic from results, then I'm up (and I don't like it at all).

[edited by: steveb at 7:52 pm (utc) on June 9, 2003]

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I think you need to add (T) which is "Total Mess!" ;-)

My website is jumping all arround and some times it just disappear!

I really hope this will end soon

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Some Higher
and
most About the same

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(c) - sums it up really!

>Anyone who lost their PR (greyed bar) through Big Bad Dom got it back yet?

Yes, 3 sites back on Sunday - traffic has returned to April figures.

[edited by: makemetop at 7:58 pm (utc) on June 9, 2003]

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Site is 5 years old and has stayed the same

c)

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All of my clients' sites are about the same except one, whose strategy depended heavily on reciprocal links. Their rankings got trashed.

Another client had a major competitor removed from the index by Dominic for spamming. Their ranking was unchanged, but their traffic has gone way up.

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For our main keyword we went from #10 to #8.

For our other 200 or so keywords we remained at about the same, #5-#8.

The backlinks are still messed up. Last month we had 167 this month we have 9 and a grey bar. A little scary but this seems pretty common this update.

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about the same, but lost a couple of no1 slots which where new sites. They have had there backward links wiped out. :-(
9:48 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A, B, C, D & E... ( sounds like a Jackson 5 song ;) )

Sites range from 3 months old to 3 years old... oddly, freshbot visits, but hasn't picked up anything new - even though I've been adding 1-2 new pages almost daily.

Glad I never relied much on Google... MSN however has picked up quite nicely over the past few days. INK seems to be relishing quite well since this latest Google fiasco.

Harbinger of things to come? Who knows...

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New in April - (E

Older Site - (C

9:59 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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c) About the same
10:06 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Same as Tigger:

New Sites
E

6/12 mth old sites

D

12mths +

C

10:22 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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a) Much higher
b) Higher
c) About the same
d) Lower
e) Much lower

d) Gone, this is me

Opps, PS - now that I realise this is the first time I laugh about this :)

10:32 pm on June 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All (except one, see below) sites up to Jan 2003 - C

All sites since Jan 2003 - C/D - hanging in there in the SERPS but lost all backlinks and now PR0 from 4/5.

Our own site - C - but lost 75% of backlinks with no explanation.

One client's site of around 2 years old - E - but she phoned me to say she is retiring so the site is closing anyway....

So without that one C/D overall I s'pose.

The thing that's really annoying me is that the newer sites are really stalling at the moment.

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