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Update Dominic - Part 9

Will it ever settle?

     
6:12 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just checked all 9 datacenters. Only -sj and -fi have the new index.

7:23 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This one?

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7:36 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am in Los Angeles and I do not see any updates.

GoogleGuy when is the next update?

I also noticed that my site used to be crawled heavily by deepcrawl around 12/13 th of the month. This month I just see 10+ crawls by deepcrawl every day. Are others experiencing the same?

7:42 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK - thanks, agreed.

Just Curious (anyone): Certainly it's been true for a while that backlinks are important (rationale: a more-or-less "unbiased vote" about one's site)...

So, if backlinks are so easy to add back in "quickly" (though trillianjedi pointed out two conflicting posts on that from GG)...WHY haven't they been added in yet?

Seems to me that G could have easily done that before the data centers started spewing out into the real world yesterday. Still testing maybe?

Makes me wonder what is really going on that's not understod yet.

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I'm seeing straight -fi results on WWW and have now for the last 20 minutes....prior to that it was the old index.

Anyone else?

7:47 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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nope. same ole www results in CA at the moment
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i had -fi results on www earlier today but not now
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FI is setup this month (or last month). When FI is installed, does it start with the new index?

I want to confirm if SJ gets data from FI or the opposite. I need some clue on which datacenter has the newer data.

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On sj, when I do a search site:xxxx.com Keyword I see more enteries as compared to www.google.com
but if I do a search on sj for xxxx I see 10 times less enteries on sj as compared to www.google.com.
I thought that when you do a search on xxxx it gives you the total enteries which include site:xxxx.com keyword.

Any thoughts?

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dont know about others, but our -sj/-fi SERPS are not and have not been fresh. and haven't been since we started looking at these indices. unfresh, unchanged. but the www. have been freshened constantly.

so we are figuring that when our serps finally do go fresh on -sj/-fi, that it might be the start of something big whew whoo..

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AthlonInside, the IP address of www-fi appeared in our DNS logs for www.google.com on April 29 for the first time. It may have been there a little longer, although I doubt it. It started with the old index. I've posted its update in one of the threads right after it occured. I think it was dominic part 3 - but you'll have to check that yourself. ;)
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"I want to confirm if SJ gets data from FI or the opposite. I need some clue on which datacenter has the newer data."

I would like to know this as well b/c the serps on fi and sj are TOTALLY different for the searches I do. Does anyone know why they are so different?

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BTW, we're seeing slightly different results on -ab and -zu from the others. Similar to -ex, but definitely different.

So right now, from this chair, we see:

One set of results on: -ex, -va, -dc, -in, -cw
Different results on: -ab, -zu
Different results on: -sj
Different results on: -fi

Maybe others have posted this and I've just missed...

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No offense intended, but it doesn't seem logical to worry about any of this until there is a switch to www.
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geesh so many datacenters wackmaster..

too many for us. we're watching sj, fi, and www. our brains can't comprehend more than that. and sj & fi seem to be doing more sitting around and doing nothing at the moment than anything else(except maybe popping up here and there) .

don't seem to have moved much in content at all since there was a backlink injection days ago up to 617k, from 384k or so. like they were put on pause...

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Sorry, go ahead and flame me.

Is the consensus that sj may represent the update? Sorry not enough time to read all 3,000 posts.

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dvduval, fair comment...the kind that keeps people from going off the edge...but if we weren't learning, we wouldn't be spending the time. Just thought I'd throw it out for those who might be doing the same.

We (think) that we've already learned a few juicy tidbits about what G seems to be testing, by watching the differences between -sj and -fi. Now we see the possibility of another test emerging. More data, more learning.

When it all nets out, we'll HOPEFULLY be smarter about how G got there. That's the goal anyway, and so far so good :-). But hey, it could just be that we've lost touch with reality!

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swampscrapper, consider yourself flamed ;-)
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Any time estimate on when the switch sj to www will happen?
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swampscrapper,

This thread will help you get up to speed:

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8:25 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Any time estimate on when the switch sj to www will happen? "

that is why were are looking for input:

does anyone see in signficant change in -sj or -fi in the last few days? does nobody want to share? we don't see any changes on them taking place recently.

since they are still not current with SERP (at least not with us) that might indicate if the stew still has more simmering before anything goes live....

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Observing -sj and -fi closely for some of my sites / targets, only temporarily very small changes. Mainly the same since days.
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As the new index occured on -sj and -fi I expected a decrease of visitors because some of my sites are not listed in -sj nor in -fi.
But the opposite happend. I never had as much visitors from google than these days.
I just can't understand that.
Visitors should have decreased because some searchers are taken to the -sj and -fi datacenters andso can't find my site.
As I often said the last days: curious... ;-)
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No offense intended, but it doesn't seem logical to worry about any of this until there is a switch to www.

No need to wait for to show up on www for one to worry when it is already showing up on Y and A*l.

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I expected a decrease of visitors...But the opposite happend.

Same here djgreg. I couldn't bear to watch -fi & -sj since all I see are strangers so I'm just watching my log files grow to their largest yet & keeping the faith.

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interesting. we see no earth shattering changes in www., or -sj, or -fi- in fact it seems to have been pretty boring stuff the last few days, but we are experiencing a drop in traffic this week compared to other weeks gone by.

we can't tell if it's Google changes and where would they be coming from, or just lighter web traffic in our keyphrases (course that never is been an easy one to gauge because apparently google has no tool to measure historical traffic on a given key phrase. not that we are aware of anyway).

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For what's it worth : I see an increase in rankings on dc, ab, in, zu, cw from #4 to #2. The whole top ten is composed out of the same pages. On sj and I'm 10 with another page.
Any clues?
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spinoza:

thanks for the feedback.

we have been focused on -sj/-fi based on hints from GG, and at this point we are drawing the line at those two- along with watching www results. trying to keep any eye on every possible G center online that we can look at isn't practical for us.

maybe they will bring back the sub-domain type URL's that show the datacenter in the referrer URL. the ones we saw for a day or two a few days back. than we might have a more accurate picture of what results are showing for us and where, or not.

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i'm seeing the sj stuff now on www when i do searches. this sucks royally. my sites are taking a pounding .. plus it's definitely showing older spidered data
9:31 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Netscape is showing fi results.
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For me, -fi is dancing to a merry tune! I have site switching between #3 and #20. It's a bit like watching a roulette wheel and wondering where the ball's gonna stop.

I ought to feel confident 'cos I think I've optimized for red or black - I just know G is going to land on 00!

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