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-fi on Yahoo!

         

textex

1:06 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing -fi results on Yahoo! for one of my search results. And yes, I am positive!

Macguru

1:10 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing regular www stuff on Y! from here. Y! and fi are totally different serps. Nothing changed.

[edited by: Macguru at 1:12 pm (utc) on May 13, 2003]

textex

1:12 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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and I see all of -fi on aol!

ncsuk

1:14 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What are you search for?

Give us the serp's...

parabola

1:16 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see fi on aol now too. Looks like we may be stuck with this old, mixed up, junky index soon :(

Macguru

1:25 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing this on AOL, but not on Y!

textex

1:27 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I only see it on Yahoo! for some serps

Daves100

1:37 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The new results are now on AOL, I haven't seen them up there before but they are definetly there now.

Nightmare....

creative craig

1:38 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see fi results for a few serps on Yahoo as well :( not good!

<added>and on AOL and netscape now</added>

Craig

[edited by: creative_craig at 1:41 pm (utc) on May 13, 2003]

Dayo_UK

1:38 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)



No No No No No - You are right :(

Looks like SJ on AOL to me though.

Looks normal on Yahoo

entropy

1:40 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see dead people.

Daves100

1:40 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ah well only another month to wait before the next update.

(He plods off miserably to make himself a coffee)

parabola

1:41 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Man, what a pain. I replaced an old site with a different domain and got most of my links to change to the new site. It has ranked well for the past 2 months now my old site is showing again!

Why can't Google simply use some new data?

hetzeld

1:41 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Confirmed! I've seen www-fi SERPs on Yahoo! and AOL, although they sometimes revert to the www SERPS.
Re-hitting the search button at 30 seconds interval changes from www to www-fi SERPs and reversely.

Are Yahoo and AOL affected by DNS round-robin? it looks like ...

Dan

creative craig

1:45 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not alot of hits from them I know but Netscape are showing them to, seems like they are here for the time being!

Craig

adsoft13

1:53 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see aol.com completely turns to -fi results for all my main search temrs ...
however yahoo is half turned, half searches gives old results ...

parabola

1:56 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would love to here from GoogleGuy on this mess...

dazz

1:58 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What mess?

It's only a mess in your opinion! Remember if your sites go down, somebody elses goes up!

Chicago

2:04 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nay, this IS a mess.

Why in the world would AOL and Y! show such results when G is not?

-fi and -sj make no sense to me. What in the world makes one think these are better results. Someone please tell me, cause in all my years, I have never seen such a poor index.

creative craig

2:06 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo! are using the two databases at the same time, every other search is the old database then it flips to the -fi then back again!

Craig

Iguana

2:07 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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True dazz

due to hitting the wrong key on the weekend before the April deep crawl I lost about 500 of my most popular pages. I couldn't restore them until the following weekend. So I am very pleased with -sj/-fi since they include those pages when a traditional update wouldn't.

entropy

2:09 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had a site that came into the index last month and I saw traffic from Yahoo! in my logs before Google. By that I assume the index actually moves to Yahoo first before it's transfered to the other datacenters.

dazz

2:10 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

I wonder if all the people who dont like the -sj / -fi index have actually searched it for anything other than their own 'keywords'?

ncsuk

2:12 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I like the sj and fi results :)

FleaPit

2:17 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Must admit, sj and fi look good for all of my sites. I thought I incurred a penalty last update as some of my internal pages exhibited a 0 PR but I couldn't figure out why as there was nothing dodgy going on. Turns out poor link structure shafted me!

Anyways these pages have got PR according to the sj index so I'm sitting fairly pretty at the mo!

trillianjedi

2:26 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I do fine in fi and sj too.

I think those that don't that have genuine non-spammy sites will do ok, it's just not fully up to date yet.

Although having said that, it must be close. fi and sj showing 617,000 yahoo backlinks now. It's increasing all the time.

The new index must be very nearly cooked and ready to dance!

TJ

webdev

2:30 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Confirmed here too....as far as I'm concerned Google can kiss my butt.....**** loads of links missing etc... on the fi serps why make it live....pointless....

And to the chap who mentioned other people go up when we we go down.....your damn right SPAM sites do really well in this new list....Inktomi here I come.....

Forget Bretts successful way to get into Google within a year all that means jack as far as these results show....

You playing a dangerous game Google as most people on here who are pissed off are decent site producers following the rules....I for one will make sure I don't from now on....

annej

2:32 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Both fi and sj seem to favor commercial sites and root domain index pages. So if fi is the update the rankings will be better for people looking for something they want to buy. Of course if it's favoring spam sites that won't be true.

Sometimes I think there needs to be a separate search for sites that are primarily information.

(edit after reading critter's message) If all those factors haven't been added why ever would they let it go public even with other services?

[edited by: annej at 2:37 pm (utc) on May 13, 2003]

Critter

2:33 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Um, before everyone goes and swats a fly with a Buick it would be good to know that:

1/ Most likely the last deep crawl (April) data is not in the new index yet;

2/ Most likely spam filters are not on the new index yet;

3/ Most likely all the backlinks are not on the new index yet;

You'll notice that we only have -sj and -fi that have the "new" results--*all* the datacenters will probably have these same results before new data/filters/etc are "danced" to the indecies.

I hate to supplant GG here but: "Don't Panic!"

Peter

webdev

2:35 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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And whats the point in doing it this way......why make live now why not finish first and then make live....

I've heard so many people say dont panic over the last few days....personally I don't see things changing much....these will be the final result....

[edited by: webdev at 2:36 pm (utc) on May 13, 2003]

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