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Peter
Absolutly agree!
You'll notice that we only have -sj and -fi that have the "new" results--*all* the datacenters will probably have these same results before new data/filters/etc are "danced" to the indecies.
Good point.
webdev:-
I truly understand the frustration and panic that this has caused, and that is not good for anyones health.
But I do believe you'll be fine when everything has settled, April deepbot data is in there and the spam filters are engaged.
I agree, it's bad for google to set live an incomplete and spammy index, but that's their call. Nothing we can do about that but wait.
Hope it all comes good for you (I'm sure it will)
TJ
Hope it stays like this. Hi Ho Hi Ho, Up the rankings I go.
Whistles a little tune........
Steve
1) Will the FI/SJ results be filtered to all datacenters and then gradually overwritten as new algos, links etc.. are added.
2) Are these new adjustments likely to make any difference i.e a site on page six now will move back to page 1 where it has been for the last six months ahead of single page spam.
3) Why release results to the likes of Yahoo and AOL when they are not complete....what is the point...I know people may say because they can...but you would think Google would have a reason for doing this.
4) Will we ever get back to a normal monthly dance.
5) Why be so secretive about things that are happening....if you want decent search results let us know what Google likes and we will deliver them...at the moment I will deliver spam sites because they do the best.
Google is as expected, the odds of getting connected to the same data center each time are slim, I guess within 48 hours or so Google will be more consistant.
I've never seen Yahoo use more than one data source/center before....but I also don't normally monitor Yahoo this closely around an update.
Give it a couple of days and we should have the new (or old if you prefer), data everywhere!
This is nutz!
-sj and -fi have taken all of our interests but what happens with these now?
Craig
Give your competitors (!) a spammy index...and look good yourself.
The mess is the 2 month old index Google is putting out as a substitute for an update.
True, many will be happy that no new links from the past two months or data from the April crawl has been added. I, for one, prefer to have the 10 zillion hits on my server from gg in April count towards something.
If no one could see the sj or fi results yet, I bet that 99% of the webmasters here would rather have seen the data from the April crawl included in the new index than some old data mixed in with freshbot.
So, yes, I am talking from the webmasters prospective here. Most that work hard on building content and links would like to see that hard work pay off.
Whether you are ranking well or poorly in fi (now live on AOL), one must admit from the search engine marketer's point of view, it is troubling that we have reverted back to old data.
Before you flame me I have searched many term’s not just the one’s I SEO.
Handing out this Data to the Google partner’s is irresponsible and putt’s a black mark on Google.
What gives? This is a mess.
Ok you lot think that -sj and -fi are a mess....
"its from an old index" you say
In both datacenters all the new pages from what ive seen are in...So the only things missing are the 'new' backlinks people have got by......? swapping links? hmm maybe they noticed?
some people like sj and fi and some dont, if its the new index.........deal with it.
Things change!
The Yahoo! results were just (about 5 minutes ago) showing the new data from april's deepcrawl, including the 100's of new pages I put up early april. I haven't seen this on -sj or -fi as of yet though.
Those are ever-flux results
Dazz,
As far as missing links are concerned I don't think that there is anything more sinister than Google hasn't added them in yet. Yahoo got most of its links back, I'm sure the same will occur for most other sites. The links that I have left in are no better or worse than those missing - some were swapped as a PR exercise, some were swapped as content provision, some are even one way (towards me); so I don't see any consistent discrimination by Google on what links it has left in and what it leaves out. Perhaps with over 3 billion web pages to create a link structure for it takes a little time.
3 PR7 sites have slipped to 4/6/9# page, whence page 1
The sites now showing page 1 are are full of bullshit 1998's spam methods
4 PR6 sites have ............gone?
2 PR5 sites have moved to page 2/3 whence page 1
1 PR4 site the same, page 1
All sites are unrelated and not interlinked, complete and utter different owners.
So what's happening?
I knew this was a potential happening, but jeez I thought it would never happen..
Maybe it's time to move on, google your days are numberered.
Maybe I could take this but the results do not make sense, from my side (majority) page 1 are complete crap. Even none relevant searh querries are there?
Surely mr google you would not test this new alogo with mr yahoo............would you?
Surely mr google you would not test this new alogo with mr yahoo............would you?
Hey GG: How about it? <snip> and clear a little air in here...
What is going on? People’s livelihoods are on the line here.
[edited by: Marcia at 1:53 am (utc) on May 14, 2003]
Of course people's livelihoods are on the line, but if you wish to live in the digital world and risk it then - thats your choice, and not something that Google or GG is accountable for.
NOPE, these appear to be live now on Yahoo AOL Netscape etc anywhwere except google... ok Yahoo has now just this minute gone back to old results.
So is it a test on partner sites?
Riskyyyyyyyyy
Where's one of those exploding-head emoticons when you need one...
