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Waiting on update Cassandra?

         

DuhKid

2:16 am on Mar 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

ircgeeks

8:57 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Looks like Datacenter 8 is changing is this the start? Or another google anomaly

FrenchGuy

7:01 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else?

jon80

7:05 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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no change in yahoo backlinks in the uk.

John_Caius

7:06 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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[webmasterworld.com...]

An update is heralded by a change in the number of backlinks to a site. Changes in results are just a normal phenomenon of Everflux. When there's an update, you'll know just by reading here regularly.

globay

7:06 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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NO UPDATE!

I am still seeing the same old results.

dwilson

7:08 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From here in SC, US there is a difference in number of backlinks to www.yahoo.com between www.google.com and www3.google.com.

Is that the standard test?

John_Caius

7:15 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, if you're typing in:

link:www.yahoo.com

into the search box.

(although I don't see it from here in the UK)

sean658

7:17 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I hate to even say this but I got 723,000 on www2 and www3
But it changed back is this common?

mbennie

7:23 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not common...although it happened at the very beginning of the March update.

On March 7th www2 and www3 showed different backlinks for Yahoo! just briefly, then switched back. About 15 minutes later the update officially began.

However...it is April 1st and one never knows how that might affect things around here....

[edited by: mbennie at 7:24 pm (utc) on April 1, 2003]

sean658

7:24 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks I hated even posting this but just what I saw..........

netnerd

8:55 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nah - uk guy here and the 3 are the same.

I think it will be a little later this time - google is becoming a more experienced lover I think (see last months update).

She likes to engage in a longer period of courtship, wooing then foreplay these days, before ending it all in a very sudden, but substantial climax!

rfgdxm1

8:57 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Serious question, all April Fools stuff aside. No less than 3 members posted they saw a change, and one mentioned specifically the number 723,000 backlinks. Did multiple people see 723K?

Zapatista

9:04 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)



No fresh dates on the www2 which is a factor, IMO.

Last time, we saw this same phenom where the update appeared off and on for about an hour before it really kicked in.

However, GG said yesterday for everybody to chill for awhile.

Who knows

rfgdxm1

9:10 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see no fresh tags either. The thing that make me wonder is the guy who posted he saw 723,000 backlinks. This could not be explained by someone confusing everflux with an update. Either something happened, or he is fibbing.

NotePad

9:23 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)



[webmasterworld.com...]

no update!

le_gber

9:23 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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can anybody else see it?

rfgdxm1

9:25 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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le_gber, it only counts for a link: search.

doc

9:26 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I may have noticed some unusual changes, but did not actually check the back links. I had 2 new pages show up in the index with good rankings about 20 minutes ago, now they are gone. Also the number of pages returned for a search for my site has changed from 320 to 1300 fluctuating between www and www2. Still my Yahoo backlinks are still 692 on www, www2 and www3.
Perhaps GG was playing a April Fools joke on us when he hinted no update today.

le_gber

9:27 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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le_gber, it only counts for a link: search.

sorry didn't know...

doc

9:30 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Clearly a differnce now as to what is returned on www and www2 but not in the backlinks to yahoo, still 692.

doc

9:35 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No change in the backlinks yet here though.

sean658

9:38 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rfgdxm1
Sorry didn`t post again yes I did see it but just that once.I keep checking...I just came back hoping to see the update but.........nothing yet....

rfgdxm1

9:38 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here is a good example of WHAT IS NOT PROOF OF AN UPDATE:

[webmasterworld.com...]

badger_uk

9:46 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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GG posted this today "I think y'all are worrying far too early. You've got to remember that the update earlier this month was just a little while ago. I wouldn't start worrying about an update yet"

This posting seems to state clearly that the update will not start for a few days yet.

badgeruk

rfgdxm1

9:50 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing lots of fresh tags on www3. Usually a sign of no update.

Jesse_Smith

10:20 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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:::I'm seeing lots of fresh tags on www3.

I'm seeing it on all three servers.

MetropolisRobot

12:00 am on Apr 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't think that Google knows the set date for an update any more than we do. I think they have a target date that they work to, but consider a few things:

Google are big. Most of us think small....Most of us think of a website as updating a few pages in dreamweaver, possibly adding some products maybe tampering with some PHP, JSP etc, and then uploading it via FTP, playing with our site etc and all is done.

Responsible companies and I believe that Google is doing their level best to be a responsible dotcom do not slam upgrades, updates, new code whatever into the production system, the "gold standard" in the enterprise.

The development team works, then the deliverables are sent to QA for testing, wrinkles and kinks are resolved. In Google's case they are not only looking at whether the code works BUT the effects of the code (on placement, PR, index).

Then and only then is the release ready. Then if they are anything like us the qa and dev teams and release sponsor ask the production team (usually IT etc) to deliver and that team makes the determination on when the delivery happens allowing for all the other things that are happening at the GooglePlex (small items like system upgrades in hardware and software terms etc)

I can hear a few people saying whoa, no its not true, all they do is spider and then re-index. Nope. They are continually updating and changing their spidering algorithms and their indexing algorithms to cope with our changing behaviour and changing strategies. Also they want to be faster, to have less spam etc etc. So an update is not just a re-indexing but likely a new "software" release for Google.

I don't care I hear. Yes you do. Because if they do not test, if they do not get as much right in a release 1st time the repercussions are enormous. Indexes look like crap, we all moan because the spammers are winning and no one benefits.

So basically its my guess that they have an aim point, but nothing is fixed in stone until it has all passed QA and final testing and everyone is happy. Then and only then is the date set.

AthlonInside

8:03 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Because they themself are not so sure on when is the update. If they tell you it is on 2 April but then they found out they have not complete the stuff they should before the update, isn't it be more dissapointed to you when they have to delay it? Then googleguy might also need to make chicken quacking sound here ... :)

rfgdxm1

8:03 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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He may not know, at least until very soon before. Things could change such a projected update will be delayed. However, GG did once announce an update indirectly before it happened. This is where soon before the update he posted that in the upcoming update a lot of sites were having penalties lifted.

GodLikeLotus

8:04 pm on Apr 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I understand that problems can occur just before an update which might cause a delay, however, I beleive that Brett announced before the last update that it would be within 48 hours. It did come from a reliable source though.

[edited by: GodLikeLotus at 8:08 pm (utc) on April 1, 2003]

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