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Didn't google just do this? My Search History...
[edited by: martinibuster at 7:02 am (utc) on April 27, 2005]
[edit reason] Fixed url [/edit]
Yahoo toolbar allows you to save pages from wherever you are browsing. Without the toolbar you're limited to saving stuff from the Yahoo Search page.
Move beyond bookmarks - create your own personal, searchable web... Save all the pages you like (exact copies, not just links!)
Leads to some questions...
Anybody testers trying this out, yet?
will shared copies of webites retain Google AdSense ads?
will shared copies of internet content retain affiliate links?
It remains to be seen, but I would think, due to copyright issues, that what Yahoo! are saving is simply a link to the original page, not a copy of the page.
That's not to say that it won't be displayed in a frame, complete with Yahoo! content related ads of course and anything like that may have a negative impact on CTR's for content advertising publishers.
TJ
the good news:
[myweb.search.yahoo.com...]
"You can also delete all of your saved pages from the My Web page. "
Google will still keep a "log" after you supposedly delete it.
Added: Privacy aside (Y! also keeps logs, afaik) ... As a webmaster:
Is there a way to specify that you don't want your pages saved, or a copy displayed in public? I haven't seen or heard of anything yet, and unlike Alexa you can't just ban Y! (or G! for that matter) without thinking twice.
I specifically don't like the idea that my pages can be displayed in public folders, as that's just duplicate content - even more so, it's duplicate content that won't get updated and might end up having more credibility than the original due to the Yahoo domain name, or cross-linking users.
I've seen enough 302 mess and similar to feel confident this could turn nasty. Or, you may call me paranoid *lol*
[edited by: claus at 3:34 pm (utc) on April 27, 2005]
Seems to me to open up a legal can of worms (not that we can do justice to a legal discussion here).
unlike Alexa you can't just ban Y! (or G! for that matter) without thinking twice.
I guess Yahoo! know that.
TJ
> Share your [personal web] favorites with friends and colleagues
That sounds to me like Yahoo will allow people to republish exact copies of web pages and then allow them to be accessed by anyone the copier sees fit.
I don't think that is right - especially if Yahoo runs ads to monetize the service.
This is certainly a lot more dangerous that Google cache!
The Bad
The application saves the adsense and aff ads to the bottom of the page. This even happens on about.com.
The Hmmm...
Yahoo doesn't cache the NYTimes, The Chicago Tribune, or SF Chronicle (no registration needed to view SF Chronicle). Why not?
Newspaper articles are the web pages people are MOST LIKELY going to desire storing (the online equivalent of newspaper clippings). Newspaper articles generally are not archived- or else they make you pay two bucks to get a peek at that Braised Duck Breast recipe you were looking for.
Are newspapers opting out? Or is Yahoo blocking them from being saved?
I think many webmasters may agree that if their page is going to be cached, then they would want it cached as-is, without Yahoo redesigning the page layout.
How do you feel?
Looking on the Bright Side
[edited by: martinibuster at 6:37 pm (utc) on April 27, 2005]
All disallowed. So, unless they accidentally remove that file at an unfortunate time, the public pages should not be visible to other search engines.
why not work on a better engine instead of the useless bells and whistles?
I save the NYT article today...
Post#12 - Can't save NYTimes. Beyond that it's a cache just like the Google Cache.
Post#12 - Can't save NYTimes.
Smacks to me of not wanting to poke the elephant in the ear with a stick.
But fine to poke at all the rabbits.
TJ
Did I miss it?
(At the end of the day, this is equivalent of creating a local webarchive (File Save As) and uploading it to xdrive or something similar? Right?)
I spent an hour testing what exactly happens when a page is saved to myweb.
It is almost absurd that a) you cannot block it from happening, Yahoo takes the page from YOUR BROWSER, there is not even an entry in the server log file! Just my own ip was the single entry.
b) I tried the no cache meta tag and that too is not respected.
c) The worse part is that not only does your web page design, get twisted around, Yahoo has the audacity to place THEIR contextual ads on your content, and your ads appears so far at the bottom you have to scroll past a lot of blank space to see them.
Do your own tests and see what I found is true.
Tom
[edited by: martinibuster at 8:21 am (utc) on April 28, 2005]
[edit reason] TOS #26 - Please consider reading the TOS, thanks. [/edit]
My primary, and probably only, concern is the republishing in public folders. I have very mixed feelings about this, as it's not quite the same as a search engine cache which at least gets updated.
I did NOT see that.
The main problem with MyWeb is the parseing/modifying the saved html, and the public folders.
I have verified several times that two blocks of adsense ads a 728x90 and a 120x600
have been reduced down to one two block ad that is not related to the page.
No-Cache is also probably a good idea, whether or not it will any effect remains to be seen.
TJ
Tom99: In response to your theory that we are inputting our own ads into the product. We have no monetization within this product. You may want to run a spyware detection software on your PC and this may solve your problem.
Thanks,
Tim
Tim, thanks for stopping by and considering our feedback.
Forgive the dumb question but why do people need to / want to save copies of pages they have visited?
Does MyWeb work if you are offline? If not... if you have to go online... why wouldn't you just go to the page you visited before?
Why if you have a book on your shelf would you photocopy the book and then read the photocopied pages?
Is this supposed to be for temporary pages which don't remain online for very long - or are frequently updated with no archive?
