WebmasterWorld Beta Bugs and Comments

Post all of your issues with the new beta here

[incrediBILL]

This thread is for discussing all of the bugs and issues with the new WebmasterWorld beta that's RWD (responsive web design) for mobile using Twitter Bootstrap.
See this thread for more details: [webmasterworld.com...]

Note that only WebmasterWorld registered members are allowed into the beta site.
It's currently not viewable if you're not logged in or by search engines.

So login! :)

The beta site location is here: [webmasterworld.com...]

Your current user name and password are all you need, it's the same data, just a different version of WebmasterWorld's layout.

[blend27]

Bill/Team, Just a suggestion....

On small devices there is already a logo pointing to WebmasterWorld root and it is always there - static.

Try adding hidden-xs class to a HOME link LI in top breadcrumbs and moving last piece of text in its own LI.

from this:

<ol class="breadcrumb">
<li><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/home.htm">Forums Index</a></li>
<li><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/category80.htm">Google</a> / Google Desktop Tools and Google Labs Projects</li>
</ol>

to this:

<ol class="breadcrumb">
<li class="hidden-xs"><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/home.htm">Forums Index</a></li>
<li><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/category80.htm">Google</a></li>
<li>Google Desktop Tools and Google Labs Projects</li>
</ol>

then override CSS

from

.breadcrumb > li + li:before {
content: "/\00a0";
padding: 0 5px;
color: #000000;
}


to

.breadcrumb > .hidden-xs:after {
content: "/\00a0";
padding: 0 5px;
color: #000000;
}

.breadcrumb > li + li::after{
color:#000000;
content: "/\00a0";
padding: 0 5px;
}

[londrum]

you've got some kind of CSS bug that is making the discussions get smaller after certain kinds of comment (i can't work out which)

check this page out - [webmasterworld.com...]

compare the size of the discussion text at the top of the page to Shepherds comment halfway down (Msg 3000199), and every comment thereafter -- it's half the size... it's tiny

its affecting the text size in the righthand column as well, because that's all smaller than it should be

[lucy24]

Oh, what fun.
I count 223 occurrences of

<small>\s+</small>

(in addition to the many more <small>actual-stuff-here</small> ) This strikes me as excessive. I was hoping to find a mismatched <small>, but no such luck. There are definitely too many of them after Robert Charlton's post, though.

Before the hiccup:

<p><small>joined:blahblah

After the hiccup:

<p><small><small>joined:blahblah

That is: everything that's supposed to be <small> is now double-small, and in addition, everything that isn't supposed to be small, now is. Starting here:

<br><b>Leaked 2012 FTC Document Called Google A Monopoly, Recommended Litigation</b> <br><small>Competition bureau doc one of many Commissioners reviewed before settling.</small>

Crystal ball says the post author did some previewing-and-editing, and along the way he inadvertently did something that caused the Forums software to throw a fit.

Awright, Robert, what did you say to the database to make it mad?

[Lorel]

Where is the option to turn off email notification of new replies once it is started. I checked all settings on my control panel and can't find it.
It's very annoying to join in on a conversation and then get your email box stuffed full several times per day and no way to turn it off.
It may help if you change the pre-clicked option when making a post and make people click on it if they want emails.

[Robert Charlton]

Awright, Robert, what did you say to the database to make it mad?

Unless I forgot to close a "small" tag, I don't think I did anything out of the ordinary.

Worth noting, btw, and this may relate somehow, that the font size forms pulldown, IMO, still isn't set up right. The form input needs to default to the default font size, which I think is "3. Moderate", and it's not doing that. I'm in Classic mode right now and I'm not seeing how the new input is set up... but I remember that the default form input and the default font size were not the same... and in fact the new form input may simply stay wherever you leave it. I don't know whether this would affect subsequent posts.

Try going from default to make a few lines small and then see what needs to be done to get back to default. It's not logical. It should simply go back to default by itself.

[lucy24]

Unless I forgot to close a "small" tag

Well, you definitely can't have done that, since the Forums-- old and new-- won't let you submit a post with mismatched style tags.

I think the default size is 2. Matter of fact, I can't figure out how to achieve an explicit "size=2" tag other than by typing it manually:
size 1
size 2
size 3
size small

Is "small" some percentage, or does it translate directly to a <small> tag? It previews to a size between 1 and 2.

:: Submit to learn answer ::

Fancy that. The other numbered sizes are span classes; "small" is <small>. I thought I was just making that up.

.size5 {
 font-size: 24px;
}
.size4 {
 font-size: 18px;
}
.size3 {
 font-size: 14px;
}
.size2 {
 font-size: 12px;
}
.size1 {
 font-size: 10px;

Oh, yuk, I really don't like that. It should be expressed as percentages, where 100% is the browser default. Otherwise anyone with an unusually large or small size preference will put all their posts in a non-standard size, making it jarring for everyone to read.

[londrum]

it would be nice if the "jump to bottom of the page" arrow sent you to the end of the discussion, rather than the actual bottom of the page.

it sounds daft, but have you tried to use this site on a mobile? on a mobile all the menus on the righthand side of the page are shifted underneath the discussion, and that's where the links takes you -- so you have to then scroll up to the last post of the discussion again.

there's not much benefit in sending people to underneath the menus, it makes more sense to send them to the last post
(and the page links at the end of the discussion are still hidden on a mobile, so you can't navigate between pages)

[lucy24]

Idea!

<tr bgcolor="#e8e8ff"><td colspan="3" align="right">This 37 message thread spans 2 pages: 37<div class="pull-right"><ul class="pagination"><li><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/webmasterworld/4742767.htm" title="Previous">&laquo;</a></li> <li><a href="/WebmasterWorldbeta/webmasterworld/4742767.htm">1</a></li>  <li><a href="#"><b>2</b></a></li>
 </ul></div></td></tr>

</table></td></tr></table>

Those are the next/previous arrows. They're part of the same table that contains the discussion thread. So it should be trivial to attach the name/id "bottom" to this location (whether or not there are visible arrows).

Btw, ahem, guillemets «» are in Latin-1. No need for entities.

:: staggering away in horror at the discovery that WebmasterWorld uses nested tables ::

[penders]

How do you write inline / monospaced code samples in the new forums? CODE, PRE and FIXED all seem to result in full width "blocks"?

When viewing a forum, the top "toolbar" breaks (the search box wraps onto the next line) between widths 1200 and 1300px (ie. 1280px 4:3 full screen monitors)

Oh, and it's reporting "Content-type: text/html" at the top of the home page!?

[RonPK]

On my 1280x1024 display the search box doesn't fit. It drops below under the menu, resulting in a huge header. Fortunately old Opera allows for site specific user style sheets:

.navbar .container-fluid { width:95% !important; }

[lucy24]

Oh, now that's interesting. I never noticed it because-- paradoxically-- my normal window width is smaller than yours. If you make your window a little smaller-- not bigger-- you'll find that the search box jumps back inline; it's at this point that the "More" dropdown menu is created. Smaller still, and the search box itself disappears along with further menu consolidation.

Experimenting, I find only about a 100px range where the dropdown happens. Either bigger or smaller and you're fine.

Content-type: text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1

[RonPK]

Yes, it seems I'm caught in the middle. Just my bad luck, then...

[RonPK]

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System: The following message was spliced on to this thread from: http://www.webmasterworld.com/WebmasterWorldbeta/WebmasterWorldbeta/webmasterworld/3003667.htm [webmasterworld.com] by lawman - 11:57 am on Apr 3, 2015 (est -5)

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On the top of the homepage (classic version) is a line with "Content-type: text/html". Not just in the HTML source code, but visible to anyone.

Also, on the post message page, there is a line with "Content-type: text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1". Right above the line with "New Discussion".

Another thing, possibly related: when I click the link to set the beta version, [webmasterworld.com...] , the redirect header is offered as a download. Could something be wrong in the server config?

[Hoople]

When trying to save an edit to a public profile a 404 results (adding data to a previously blank url field). Beta only. Classic works fine.

[londrum]

the search box in the top right hand corner doesn't seem to work anymore.
i am using safari, and it when you type something (anything at all), and press submit, it just reloads the same page you are on

[lucy24]

I've been bitten by that too. It's a dropdown: you have to select a search mode. O' course it ought to be coded so that either nothing at all happens when you hit Submit or Return, or it picks a default ...

[londrum]

aha, okay, i totally missed that. I'm glad that it fooled you as well because otherwise i would have felt a bit dim

[Fotiman]

the navigation links to the pages at the bottom of the thread are hidden on my mobile device. They are covered by an ad that says "Become a member". I had to switch to classic mode just to get to the second page.

[adder]

Not a massive bug but on the homepage where you have Moderators and top contributors, the 7-day top links to a page that doesn't exist. It should point to this one:
[webmasterworld.com...]

[EarWig]

[webmasterworld.com...]
Link error -page not found
Cheers

[tangor]

The change to Beta came while I was posting to foo... and that did not update, but did see that announcements has new, so licked that, saw the rollout, clicked set to BETA and ended up int eh private Supporters forum (which requires passwords, etc). It that intended?

Going to test to see if I can get back to classic as nothing else is working right now.

[tangor]

By using an old link got back to classic (not yet activating goggleapis)

But the Beta did, kinda sorta work... I guess after enough clicking about refreshed the browser.

Still don't see a link for recent posts (meaning what is new just now, not featured, not hot, not anything but the most recent). Is that in the beta and I just missed it?

The foo finally appeared.

[edited by: tangor at 6:28 am (utc) on Apr 18, 2015]

[tangor]

Eyes bad... have been for years. Zoom LARGE (not smartphone RWD size 320x) on a 1920x1080 monitor, 23", and things drop off as expected... but things necessary aren't there either. On the Forum list, at a zoom that includes the side bar, the mod names, post counts etc are there in the forum list... but zoom so I can READ it, those disappear and all I have is the forum title and no horizontal scroll to see the rest....

Did look at control panel and new options there. Some features sure to excite.

Have to admit I'm not the typical webmaster at webmasterworld... I like to see the MOST RECENT POSTS when I log in... not what's hot, etc. Just the most recent as my interests are varied and immediate conversations are paramount. Goog, per se, isn't top of my list... (also note that the editor style elements do not work==bold italic...)

If it's there (recent posts), and I missed it, apologies! My eyes are bad... and maybe I'm obtuse and just can't find it.

The site does function with Noscript active FF 37, everything denied... though I'm sure there are some features I might not see. (I did turn all that on just to find out what I might be missing and the little difference, such as some of the drop down menus, isn't compelling enough to keep those turned on.

Having said all that!... Nice work!

I'm a grumpy old phart. I just want a link to the most recent posts as that is where I live and breathe as many of the actual forums do not interest me AS TOPICS OF INTEREST. Please point me in the right direction and I'm a happy camper. Else, sadly, finding things of interest will not be as easy and if not easy will be more difficult to participate.

[not2easy]

Recent Posts moves to the Drop Down Menu after some width limit is hit with Zoom or narrow browser. It's under "More" after Control Panel and Pro Membership links.

OR you can get the Recent Posts on the Menu at the bottom of the page.

[tangor]

Thanks! ... switching to Beta to check that out!

.... back...

Couldn't find it. Not even a search would show it... until I turned on the googleapis (jquery). Which I did. Found the link. It is now on my link list.

Also discovered I can't edit a message I posted unless googleapis is active... I'll keep that in mind for the future.

Just so you guys know... I do not allow ANY js, jquery or anything else on my PERSONAL browser... and that is what I use for Webmasterworld. At present what I like about WW is alls sorted (my entry page) and I'm smiling again. :)

[IanTurner]

iPhone Chrome can't see pagination boxes at bottom of thread pages

[Fotiman]

@IanTurner, I mentioned that as well. There seems to be an ad to become a member that was covering them. I could only tell when my phone was in landscape mode (I could see the tops of the pagination boxes but not enough to click on them).

Is anyone actively listening to this thread and correcting bugs/issues?

[tangor]

On desktop, if zoom too large (not for me, but perhaps others), you can't find pagination. Make smaller so the pagination shows, you still have to make smaller before the hover/click occurs. (reminder, Noscript, NO JS of any kind) Make zoom "small" enough it works. Chalk this up to one user with a vision problem, not a knock on the design or the efforts

Other observations as I really have been trying this Beta RWD...

Using FF Web Developer Responsive View (CTRL+SHIFT+M) the site looks hideous. :) All that space devoted to the message container (everything that is not the post itself) makes scrolling More Fun! More Time Wasted!. HOWEVER, if on desktop (don't have a phone to test this stuff) by changing View to NO STYLE the site, and all the hidden options in the js styled buttons, et al., become immediately available and, for me, much easier to read. Yes, viewed with no style WW looks like 1980s, but dang it, it is not only functional, it is viewable. Happy to know I don't have to give up my no js to keep using the site.

[tangor]

Oh... one last thing. If you make an edit to a post, when the screen refreshes it returns to the first message int eh thread, not the page... AFTER AN EDIT is key as the Submit on a quick reply does work properly.

[tangor]

Tonight's roll out (April 24) results in 500 error.