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That is to say, should one be checking to see if the sites are out of the sandbox regularly or only when they know there is a major Google update? :)
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Mc
Never underestimate how stupid people are when using the internet.
Yes, it took people a while to realize Google offered a the best search.
If that sort of logic works, then we should lock up all newborn babies until they can convince us they won't grow up to be criminals. :>)
So? You have to earn your rankings that now takes many many months... tough.
>The owner of one these sites provided me with highly unique, useful content that anyone searching for her keywords would have been delighted to find.
Good, in a few years you may be ranked well.
>Google does not see it this way so Google has a problem!
No, you have a problem. Your problem is that you think your site should be ranked highly and it isn't. Until you get enough people to agree with you and link to you then you will continue to have a problem.... this now takes time.
>It is failing to find just about all the new sites, good or bad. It's broke, plain and simple.
No, it can find them, it is now waiting for people to link to them with relevant and mature links. Google is in no rush to rank new sites highly. Its been there and done that and that is how all the spammers made a lot of money.
>Get the press onto this. It's the only way we'll get a solution, or perhaps more accurately a resolution.
The story would be like a new book shop in deepest Africa complaining that no one is giving it free advertising within months of starting. Google is just being cautious about ranking new sites... fair enough, they owe you or me nothing.
If the nephew knows that it will take sometime for his site to rank, he should buy adwords or use another advertising medium. Established sites would carry the story anyway, which is probably a better signal to google that the claims are legitimate. The nephew is really dumb to just rely on a new site via google free listings for such an important discovery.
Why on earth does Google have to take the blame for all these ridiculous scenarios? Google is just a website like yours.... I bet you don't put a google search box on every page of your site and give them free advertising. You just put stuff on which you think is good..... so do they. They've been hit with spam and are trying to deal with it, probably just as you would, with caution and not being bullied into putting up unproven new sites just because they are new.
After your lecture, i surely need to reconfirm that this forum deals with SEO ... and help people in learning as ow to rank well on serach engines like Google.
In Google'd eye anybody who do extraordinary efforts to manipulate the ranking of any website is a Criminal and as good as a Spammer.
Few years back crosslinking was not spamming, now to some extent it is...
Let the spider in + a few basics and that is more or less it.... if you eventually get good rankings it will be because of good content and natural linking.
The problem is that legit sites with some SEO are being dropped down, while spam with very little content for the human visitor and massive SEO is rising to page 1 like never before.
You make it sound like only the cream of the crop are going to rise to the top, but you are wrong.
GoogleNews exposes the story to everyone on Earth, before the nephew is even finished stuffing his meta-tags.
(They send out email alerts, too ;) )
The cream will rise to the top..... and everybody else will call it spam..... business as usual.
If you think I'm calling good sites spam, just because they are page 1, you are wrong (again). To imply that I call some sites/results spam because I'm bitter is insulting.
You seem to think quite highly of your own opinion, which might make it hard to see that everything you say isn't correct.
Spam is spam, by definition a bunch of crap that nobody wants, and Google has a bigger problem with it than ever from what I can see.
I'm talking about self contained networks of useless garbage, not well established information sites with natural links from other on-topic sites, patiently built up over time.
Some webmasters will think they know everything despite evidence to the contrary, business as usual.
