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Sandboxed Sites - Back Together?

Do they come out together or one by one?

         

McMohan

10:09 am on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Most of the new sites that I work with are still in the sandbox. Was just curios to know, if all the sanboxed sites come out of the sandbox during one fine major updation or one by one, over the rolling updates?

That is to say, should one be checking to see if the sites are out of the sandbox regularly or only when they know there is a major Google update? :)

Thanks

Mc

cwnet

2:10 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Powdork: Now thats easy..

Seach for Bluefind

#1 in [beta.search.msn.com...]

#1 in [search.yahoo.com...]

#46 (not the homepage) in [google.com...]

<owner-edit>no, crappy links wont help in google as the above example shows</owner-edit>

Powdork

2:25 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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breast cancer foundation of arizona

BTW Google. That one really hurts people.

steveb

3:10 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"no, crappy links wont help in google as the above example shows"

Um... huh? Obviously those example don't show anything concerning crappy links.

Vec_One

3:11 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Good point, Powdork. If Google wants to monopolize the web, it should accept a certain amount of responsibility. Larry and Sergey like to say "Our goal is to organize the world's information!" They don't mention anything about hiding the world's most current information. I wonder if this could eventually lead to a class action suit, or trouble with the government. M$N has had its share of grief from the feds. I wonder if Google is next.

Powdork

3:16 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The last thing we need is any kind of federal intervention. That is almost always bad, as are lawsuits (IMO). Just a wee bit o media is all that is needed.

cbpayne

3:20 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if this could eventually lead to a class action suit, or trouble with the government.

No chance.

cwnet

3:33 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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steveb:

I aggree that that (crappy links) depends on perception.

cwnet

3:38 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would like to think that the "worlds information" is something above "US federal intervention" abilities or for that matter "Chinese Gov. intervention".

my 2cents (euro) from good old europe, but I could be wrong...

Imaster

3:40 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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breast cancer foundation of arizona

Excellent example!

MSN Search Marketing Team, listen, all you have to do to promote you search engine is to make a big list of all such queries and advertise real hard while the Google Sandbox lasts.

dvduval

4:33 am on Nov 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If it's not new, it's old!

When I first joined this forum, there were a bunch of defenders of Altavista, but the overall mood was people were pissed (can I say that?) because AltaVista was not updating with NEW INFORMATION.

I tried to argue that AltaVista was going down fast, but I was out debated. Basically, the argument was something along the lines that there was no way that AltaVista would lose it's position because they reinvented search as we know it.

I am in a much different position now. Google has been good to me. I have optimized my sites, and I feel the sites that rank well deserve to be there because I worked hard to get them there, and created "good places" that are valuable to people.

The reason we have the sandbox

But recently, I have been putting out NEW INFORMATION that I know is valuable to people. I have created more "good places", but Google doesn't update as often. There are claims to contrary.

Google says they are on a constant update, but really this so called "constant update" is inferior. I believe the "constant update" is really an excuse. They are using "Freshbot" info, but they are no longer able to cope with calcualating PageRank across 8 billion pages. So ... we have the sandbox, plain and simple.

Conclusion

Many times on this forum, I have called myself a "Google Fan", but my patience is wearing thin. Maybe Google's stock price is doing great, or all the BIG SITES are ranked well, so nobody cares about the rest. But I think Google can do better. And if they can't, someone else will!

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