Sandboxed Sites - Back Together?

Do they come out together or one by one?

[McMohan]

Most of the new sites that I work with are still in the sandbox. Was just curios to know, if all the sanboxed sites come out of the sandbox during one fine major updation or one by one, over the rolling updates?

That is to say, should one be checking to see if the sites are out of the sandbox regularly or only when they know there is a major Google update? :)

Thanks

Mc

[jrzero]

"For some reason everyone assumes that MSN is better, I'm sorry I just don't see that. Do a search on "money." Not sure that Eddie Money should be up so high at number 12... Of course MSN Money is #1"

Go to google and search on
Toolbar
Alerts
news
free email

Their products list number one.

[jrzero]

continuation of previous post..
Some of the google searches do list them as sponser links.

I just searched msn and beta.search.msn

beta - Top two results the same as google: 1-cnn,2-moneycentral... MS Money was number 5, not number 1

search.msn - 1-cnn, 2-msn money.. Ms Money was number 5 here too.

Neither ms site pushed a sponsered link at the top for ms money.

[mark1615]

Rod, I would like to know how competitive your terms are?

(And congratulations.)

[brixton]

MHes
msg #:305>the best message until now.-
and by the way all those barking here about evil google what do thay expect? that the top established pages that are for years at the top with hard work to go down? so there new spam or not or whatever pages comes up? if that's the case well done "sundbox"

[creepychris]

Wow. I only manage a few select content sites, all of which are very old. But for the first time in a long time I launched a new site three weeks ago. I launched it prematurely, thinking I would have to wait in the sandbox for 6 months. But I started getting my first referrals from Google yesterday. I checked and they were on page two of the SERPS.

I submitted the site to Google three weeks ago but Gbot didn't show. Then about 10 days ago I gave an index page link from a PR6 site that Gbot visits at least daily. Within 24 hours, GBot dropped by the new site and took the index page of the new site. The same thing happened for three days straight. Then on the fourth day, Gbot took everything (spidered deeply).

The new site is in the google cache with a nice site description.
The new site site has only 3 external backlinks (all PR6).
The new site offered fresh content every time Gbot visited.
The new site was on a new domain, that I think was never used before (or atleast hadn't been for a long time as I couldn't find any traces of it being used in the past).

Does it appear that I am out of the sandbox?

[phantombookman]

Hi Mark
they vary depending on how vague or precise the search term is but my searches tend to range from 6.5 million matches to about 200,000

It is easy to see in my area how sites and pages should rank as there is very little seo. Consequently the sandbox is glaringly obvious.
Regards
Rod

[hdpt00]

creepychris: if the domain was old and purchased a while back it seems the sandbox does not effect it. This could be why you had success.

[Powdork]

creepychris,
Also, sites sometimes enjoy a bit of time (1-3 weeks) in the sun before disappearing. Let us know how it goes.

[andsieg888]

I'm curious if anyone has had any success with buying a domian which has been registered for over a year but has a PR of 0 and then tried to build a site which ranks well....essientially avoiding the sandbox.

Or, as many have suggested, are recently created backlinks what are really being sandboxed, regardless of the age of the site?

[brixton]

""buying a domian "" do you mean Damian Del boy's son?:-)

[brixton]

andsieg888,sory for the humor ,just to relax a bit from stress,anyway there are some huge updates today in SERPS ,check for your selfs..very very interesting!

[Pimpernel]

Huh? Cannot see any major changes at all. A few positions moved slightly but nothing beyond the ordinary

[andsieg888]

brixton, it's all good.

not seeing much change in the serps in my neck of the woods.

[profitpuppy]

Hi, I read about 75% of this thread and I just as confused as when I started...

There is a sandbox... there isn't. You shouldn't try and optimise... of course you should... new pages work on old sites but buying old sites doesn't work all the time... and so and so forth...

In summary, (and taking into account that there will always be an exception to the rule/s) what overall recommendations are there (apart from sitting back and doing nothing).

Also, has this topic received any non industry specific mainstream press that you know of?

[cbpayne]

>apart from sitting back and doing nothing

I have tried everything to get out of sandbox, so sitting back and doing nothing is a good option.