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1) It may be something other than just repetative content as all of my subpages are gone (some were totally unique pages in foreign languages with no similar content on any other page with the exception of the overall page structure). However, most competators with a very large number of virtually identicle pages survived and structure very close to mine survived.
2) All of my sites and all pages still come up when I type in site:www.mysite.com
3) My site was about 125 pages and no pages except the index are still in Google SERPS.
4) No external links on 90% of pages that disappeared, around 5 internal links.
5) Internal link structure where all pages were linked from index, but they for the most part did not link to each other.
6) Many subpages had numerous links from external sites pointing to them.
Rollo
P.S. WebFusion - thanks, but not especially helpful. There is nothing free about building up a high PR site that gets good traffic.
I do have some outbound links from the index page to sites that are unrelated, but no such links from the pages that were removed.
I'm analyzing my competators sites, but I still don't see any major differences. My site was hand built and theirs are highly repetative content managment sites, they have less internal links on their index pages. Not much else.
I hope I covered what you were getting at...
related:http://www.your-site.com/
see if the sites that coem up are related to you or not
G likes to play arround with alogos, and is complete bs, hence "trying to beat g" is not possible, you would have more chance of beating the bookie.
Sure there are sites what i say does not come into play, linux, or very niche search queries. But get into real "money words" forget it, play arround with keyword density, anchor text etc etc all you like, bottom line is luck. There is no known criteria, g will love all the bs "how to make top spot" lol. you go into a big bin and the hand of god delivers results; or randomized.
And the next g dance randomized again...
It used to be fairly simple a year or so ago, not now with the new "randomized alogo"
P.S. WebFusion - thanks, but not especially helpful. There is nothing free about building up a high PR site that gets good traffic.
I think you missed the point. If the ONLY way your business can remain profitable is by receiving free traffic, then your business is probably in more trouble than you realize.
By devloping your site to the point that is maimizes it's sales potential (i.e. high conversion rates), then you can stop having sleepless nights worrying about your postition(s) in the serps (or lack therof) and know that EVEN IF you have to PAY for your traffic (i.e. PPC), you can STILL turn a nice profit, as you'll know exactly how much to pay for those visitors to turn that profit.
As far as not beinge "free" to build a high-PR site....I'm sorry, but that's just bunk. Other than the time you have to invest in marketing the site, it's still not hard to build a PR6+ site in under 18 months (took us 4 months).
Personally, I don't see any reason to include randomization - there seems to be enough quirks in the algo as it is that randomization wouldn't add much.
And note there's no reason the weighting factors for all of these have to be positive. If some Googletech gets a bright idea and tries it out, and it turns out the results are worse than useless -- then the negative results are useful!
People here have made several guesses -- but you'd have to do a great deal more than a handful of guesses and compare two websites for each, to tell what's actually going on.
And, of course, if you found out what's going on, it would be catastrophic for Google if they did not change it immediately.
-codejammer
If you are not on the first page of SERPs you are in the middle of nowhere, so just wait for a rescue Chopper.
I follow a lot of UK based money keywords and my competition as been hit just as bad as me. For most affiliates I think their days are numbered or a least very difficult. :-(
Im building a.... 'guide' and to make a little cash i thought about adding affiliates... would this harm my ranks?
The website is on 2 months old or so, and doesnt get the traffic so i cant drop any at the moment! but again will it harm my ranks?
rj
Surely it is either a failed or rather assumptive algorithm that assumes I want to buy power tools, maybe I want to actually know about power tools.
Anyway, how do Amazon get to the top so consistently. There are plenty of large retailers out there who are far more specialised in the whole range of products but they aren't at the top. Many of these sites are dedicated to their product (or range) and have more content than Amazon. If you look at Amazon books for example, half the books don't even have a synopsis.
I don't know if I subscibe to the belief there is a relationship between Google and Amazon but there is definitely a favouring in the SERPS. If this is solely due to the size of Amazon (and their site) it doesn't seem to be a particularly good reason for ranking that high.
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(Going back to Iocaine .. )
[webmasterworld.com...] (I am still standing by my theories in message #355.. start applying game theory to this problem, don't look for one specific solution).
-codejammer
Has anybody affected since the 23rd seen a comeback?
I would like to work together with other people who have been hit to determine what the problem is. I know thousands of other sites are doing well. That's not news.
Ok, if you insist, I'll stop looking at city maps which use streets and intersections, to identify where I am.
