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10:38 am on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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traffic dropped from 2000 to 350 on my website and I cannot find my pages showed up on Google for particular keywords. PR=5 the same as usual. Anybody has the same problem ... any comments why that happened to my website?
9:29 pm on Sept 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have had a 300% trafic increase since 4 days ago.

I attribute this to a relavent backlink development campaign I did 2 weeks ago. Previously, my backlinks were dominantly unrelated.

10:06 pm on Sept 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>the results on Y are now making G look silly

Like staleness, ancient 301s, and a plethora (like results 1-10 sometimes) of dupe content/domains?

Might be me but my Y! referral percentages haven't budged for years; they didn't drop after the switch, which is praiseworthy, but they're still a distant 2nd.

My G traffic is holding steady.

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I've gone from 30,000 visitors per day to 5,000 per day, and adsense revenue has dropped accordingly.

PR and number of pages indexed has stayed exactly the same.

What I've been able to figure out so far is that my sites still show up for exact phrase matches (i.e. "widgets located in this place") still show up at #1 to #4, but without the quotes I show up on page 5 or 6.

Based on my pages, it seems that Google is putting some sort of penalty on pages with the exact search phrase on the page. Pages with all the keywords, but not together seem to show up near the top. Exact phrases are later.

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Hmmm, hope we dont have a scrooge google christmas again guys, we too are down in traffic but the serps remain the same.
End of september and beginning of october is traditionally a quiet time for sales.

Bek.

10:57 pm on Sept 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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oldskool, re:
Based on my pages, it seems that Google is putting some sort of penalty on pages with the exact search phrase on the page. Pages with all the keywords, but not together seem to show up near the top. Exact phrases are later.

I noticed early this month G used a spam filter on one of my pages because a target keyphrase was repeated twice in close proximity in the first paragraph. Adsense displayed public service ads on the page for weeks. I edited it to use more natural language and related terms, and it was picked up within a day. Yours might be another part of the filter.

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"You used to be able to have virtually 0 pagerank and still rank first for a very very specific term. Now, some sites can't with decent pagerank can't even do that."
Rick_m, that does not contradict it possibly being a (behind the scenes) PR update that has caused all those "I have changed nothing and nothing I see has changed yet my traffic has dropped" testimonials. What you are describing is the "sandbox effect" - and one does not preclude the other.
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Accordinng to my stats Looks like old search positions (with some positive quality changes) which were before August 26 are back.
Guys, if you see traffic drop just wait for 3 weeks and next Google switch would be yours! Looks like Google has enrolled new GoogleDance form.. (or may be old with some new feautures?)
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My traffic has also dropped since Sep. 23 for ALL my sites, including my 4 year old topic authority site. I hope it will get back up in a couple weeks as suggested..
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My traffic on my main site had dropped to 40% of normal in the August 25 update (big thread about that here [webmasterworld.com]). Now it seems to be back to normal levels (since Sep 23), I just wonder if it will last. I actually only noticed just new as I hadn't been bothering to check stats recently.

My other smaller sites traffic seems to be halved since the 23rd.

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May as well pipe in with my 2pence worth....50% of google traffic gone since the 23rd this end.
1:30 pm on Sept 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We have a 35% increase in Google traffic over here.
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"We have a 35% increase in Google traffic over here"
good for you guys.LOL.
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Several hundred percentage increase here.

Going bananas today.

My secret? Haven't SEO'd the site. Haven't touched the site format (urls) since June or so. I expect will only get better with time the more I leave things alone.

:)

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We noticed a huge drop the 23rd and 24th as well. We have a large music site with thousands of pages of original content but recently added a certain rodent's amazon store script to power our ecommerce links. I believe google is laying the smackdown on sites that have any duplicate content or obvious affiliate stuff. Our home page and topical urls went from first page of the SERPs to page 10+.
I think the party is over for amazon affiliates...
Does anybody know a good cd and video drop-ship merchant that isn't overexposed thru thousands of scripted sites?

Ben

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As Cabbie points out, lots of bumping around this month...and with G'bot's maniacal activity of the past week, it's always possible that there's more bumpiness ahead.

There have been times over the last year when I've thought G's behaviour was akin to shooting themselves in the foot, but lately it seems that they've taken aim directly at their head. Of course, their aim is not so good as it used to be, so they might still miss. ;-)

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we were #1 postion for 700 pages, now we lost them all and went to 10+ pages,we dont get any google trafic since the 23/24.
i think it was bad indexing problem. i hope they will fix it soon.
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Ok, its my turn to whine! - Lost 3 sites totalling 8k uniques/day this month , now they gnerate less than 500 visits a day :(
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I've got a funny one - 10 days ago my site went from PR5 to PR0 but number of hits from Google has gone up 20% as a result!
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yeh add me to the moan list.

Traffic down over 50% on 2 sites.

:(

7:06 pm on Sept 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seems they have hit the right button, since so many SEO's are complaining. :-)

I think it's fair that the average homepage creators (sometimes with better content) get a chance as well to get more visitors.

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I will need help to determine what happened to my website which used to take first positions recently in Google.
I published my website in march 2002 and optimized it for Google… I had no problems since then but on September 23, 2004 I lost all my good positions in Google. My traffic dropped from 2000 to 300 daily. As I searched for my main keyword first it occupied 3rd position (used to be 1st) … later I found it on 8th position as I searched for the same keyword. I did not change anything on my webpages… PR=5 on all pages, one page PR=6 PR wasn’t changed at all on all pages … it’s the same.
I just need your help or any comments … I’d be willing to provide any additional information if someone could help me. My name is Max and I am from Belarus.
It looks like my website disappeared from google I get like 26 hits a day – used to get 1300 hits. Was Google’s algorithm changed or its some kind of a dance … or something else? I really want to find out what happened and what I need to do now… I will need your piece of advice or comments….
Max
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Same here guys, I was dropped last week. only my main index page remains in google, nothing else, this is very very bad news. This has happened to me twice this past year nad it bounced back but seriously, this is causing me sleepless nights, and I don't think there's anything we can do...
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Since Sept 25, one of my sites has gone from a very steady 400 to 1200 visitors/day. Wild...
11:21 pm on Sept 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are most/all of you who are feeling recent pain referring to aff sites? Or are we talking a variety of site types here?
11:29 pm on Sept 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Our main site is an affiliate site. We lost most of yahoo's traffic a little while ago and we chalked that up to being an affiliate. Now, if we lost google's traffic for the same reason, we are probably done, other than using ppc, which is expensive for affiliates. While we promote our affiliate's products we always change put the description to our own words, change the gif name ect. although we do use some of their customer reviews word for word. We are curious too if this is an affiliate thing or not.
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Max, did your site also take a hit around August 4? My understanding of the last two months or so:

- a number of large sites with relatively unoptimized internal pages took a hit on August 4th. Many lost up to 80% of their Google referrals.

- some of these sites then recovered completely around August 25, and smaller sites suffered.

- then on September 22, the dial was turned back away from large sites, and additional filters / penalties were applied to other sites that may or may not be related.

Our take, as a large, fairly unoptimized site that took a hit on August 4 and recovered on August 25, is that this most recent tweak was a toned down version of the tweak that occcurred on August 4.

On August 4, we saw fairly significant erosion in the serps across hundreds of thousands or relatively uncompetitive key words. For example, key words that we had placed #3 for, we placed #10 for after August 4.

This latest tweak is the same type of across the board erosion in the Serps, but the more typical slide is #3 to #5.

I don't think that there's any why to know if this is simply a 'randomization' effort by G to keep folks off balance, or if this indicates some more permanent shift of how sites are ranked.

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We're a content site that happens to use amazon for our affiliate sales. I'd hate to think we got nailed for our amazon store.
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I have several sites, and two got hit on sept 23rd. Both have a lot of pages promoting affiliate content. I was wondering too if this was an affiliate content filter. For many of our pages, we add unique content about the specific products being promoted, but for many other pages, we just are listing items with descriptions of those items - I don't blame Google for wanting to get weed out pages like that - I would be surprised though if they dumped the entire site because of parts of the site having affiliate content.

Perhaps in an effort to curb the spam of affiliate marketers, Google is willing to throw out a few babies with the bath water.

I'm still hoping that this is a glitch as they re-organize their index - it would really stink for me if I can never get a top 5 listing for any topic on my main site.

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I might as well add my 2 cents. I have an affiliate site that lost over 50% of it's google traffic on Sept. 4. And no, it hasn't returned thus far.
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hmmm... looks like G really hit affiliate sites.
has anyone used links spamming? i mean blogs etc.
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