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22-23 September Google traffic dropped dramatically

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maxidrom11

10:38 am on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)



traffic dropped from 2000 to 350 on my website and I cannot find my pages showed up on Google for particular keywords. PR=5 the same as usual. Anybody has the same problem ... any comments why that happened to my website?

Sheppy

11:49 pm on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Our website did exactly the same. We have been getting about 2000 hits per day for the last 1.5 year. Sept 23 hits are down to about 350-400. We are an affiliate site with lots of links to our affiliates. Hoping for a turn around

Aaz7

11:58 pm on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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SEOPTI

12:36 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing the same, a huge drop in traffic.

ezwebdesign

1:17 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yep, me too! 4500 to 700. Maybe it won't be a merry christmas :(

cabbie

1:38 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Aug 5th saw an algo tweak and a sudden drop of traffic for many.
Aug 23-25 saw another algo tweak where sites that suffered on Aug 5th regained traffic but other sites lost 70%.
Sept 22-23 seems to me similar to Aug 5th algo tweak where sites that suffered on Aug 23 regained but sites that got hammered on aug 5 were hammered again.

Perhaps now Google are updating every month again and using 2 different algos.

cbpayne

1:41 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are they really algo tweaks? or are they PR and backlinks being updated internally?

keyplyr

1:43 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Significant traffic drop here also, even though SERP positions remain unchanged.

Sheppy

1:47 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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2 different algos almost seems the case. We have been taken out of 1st page positions before, down to 20th page and then a month later back on page 1 again. The only ones that really keep their positions on major keywords are those that have LOTS of back links (authority sites)

Aaz7

2:03 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Aug 5th saw an algo tweak and a sudden drop of traffic for many.
Aug 23-25 saw another algo tweak where sites that suffered on Aug 5th regained traffic but other sites lost 70%.
Sept 22-23 seems to me similar to Aug 5th algo tweak where sites that suffered on Aug 23 regained but sites that got hammered on aug 5 were hammered again.

you've forgot to mention 2 onther drop-times: 30-31 of Aug, and 6-7 of Sep.

Spine

2:59 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Count me in. I'm still in the index with site:www.mysite.com, even a new page added today is in there, plus I still have a fresh tag on some pages.

Doesn't mean much when many of my pages are now on the 8th page of SERPs.

rfgdxm1

6:07 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google is a zero sum game folks. For every site getting few hits because they are mired at the bottom of the SERPs, someone is at #1 and delighted.

thaidomain

6:28 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One of my sites got hurt beginning of August, dropping from about 1,200 visitors a day to 400 a day. Another got hurt end August, dropping from about 2,500 visitors to 800 a day.
Both sites are back to 'normal' as from 23 September. Did not change anything substantial on either site. So just waiting it out is a good option, unless one is aware of something on the site that's not well appreciated by Google.
It would be much better in my opinion if these changes in rankings were applied in a gradual fashion, and not in the sudden jumps we are experiencing at the moment.

cabbie

8:47 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>Google is a zero sum game folks.
No.not really.
Its a plus and minus game that equals zero.What we are trying to do in this thread is to work out how to get the + and let the others get the -

mikeD

10:18 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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experienced the exact same thing thaidomain.

so there is a chance that in 2/3 weeks the websites hit on 23rd of Sept may come back in.

waiting seems the best option, at least for a few weeks.

Larryhat

11:04 am on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This may sound dumb but ..

Does Google publish numbers on THEIR traffic?

Its possible that Google is getting hit more or less depending on seasonal factors, competition (other SEs) and still other things.

IF G traffic drops markedly, it would stand to reason that your and my G-referred traffic would also fall, even with NO change in SERPs positions. -Larry

whiterabbit

12:11 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Since 23rd Sept.

Site not visible with site:domain.com

Googlebot spidering around 2,000 pages a day

I could understand one or the other of these events, but both together? I'm at a complete loss understanding this behaviour.

Hardwood Guy

1:32 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also seen a minor decline but not as radical as August 5. Worked on backlinks, now looking more stable. PR? That thang is so over rated nowadays why bother with it.

LukeC

1:49 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google is a zero sum game folks. For every site getting few hits because they are mired at the bottom of the SERPs, someone is at #1 and delighted.

I can't accept that statement when in the UK we are seeing a lot of non UK sites at the top.

One search for "cheap widgets" brings up 6 american sites in the top 10, how useful is that for a UK surfer looking to buy a "cheap widget"!

LukeC

1:52 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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And on yahoo... same search brings up 10 UK sites.

Google - Yahoo bring up 10 UK sites for the UK - are you listening to me!

tigger

2:07 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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the results on Y are now making G look silly and I'm seeing a vast increase in traffic from Y too, so hopefully the general public are starting to give G the big push it needs to sort itself out

illusionist

3:21 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I had lost 80% of my traffic from G on Aug 25 and then on Sept 23 another 10%. I still havent regained any of my traffic. :(

sean

4:40 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google is a zero sum game

False. The contrary has been illustrated repeatedly, most recently in this thread by LukeC.

Rick_M

4:57 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From an SEO standpoint, it is close to a zero sum game - there will always be "x" number of sites that get ranked, it is just a matter of what order they get ranked in.

From a user perspective, however, it is definitely not a zero sum game - having 10 average sites move up 1 spot does not balance out a very topical site dropping 10 spots.

Even from an SEO perspective it isn't a zero sum game. I personally don't like one of my sites that is on a related topic taking over the top spot for the main site I run on a specific topic. I'd rather get users going to the appropriate site.

phantombookman

5:12 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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95% down on a resource site with unique content, no ad's spam buying or selling of links etc.Page 1 to page 9 overnight

Hugely disspiriting

rockykk

5:23 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have lost 50% of my traffic on 9 Sep and 90% on 23 Sep. My back links are same as it was before 9th Sep, Number of pages in Google are same, No change in PR but traffic is going down.
I am scared.
Do we have to think about new SEO Techniques?

Boaz

7:17 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"My back links are same as it was before 9th Sep, Number of pages in Google are same, No change in PR but traffic is going down."

there's general agreement among many (most?) that PR is changing, just not visibly (toolbar PR is unchanged, but actual PR has already been recalculated several times since June 23) - so what you're experiencing would be totally in line with your back links' PR (and hence your PR) having dropped.

geebee2

7:59 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> Site not visible with site:domain.com

> Googlebot spidering around 2,000 pages a day

> I could understand one or the other of these events, but both together? I'm at a complete loss understanding this behaviour.

Likely explanation : Google "lost" your site (possibly an accident) and is now working to get it back!

Rick_M

8:03 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Boaz,

This is not a pagerank update happening behind the scenes (at least not the Sept 23rd drop of sites, which seems to parallel something from August 26th). You used to be able to have virtually 0 pagerank and still rank first for a very very specific term. Now, some sites can't with decent pagerank can't even do that.

Craig_F

8:44 pm on Sep 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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me too. since the beginning of Sept, my traffic has dropped 75%. no PR change, but I have noticed that on my 2 largest sites (100,000+ pages) a significant number of pages are no longer listed.
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