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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)
Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.
If Google tweak the algo this way this month, they may tweak it the other way next month.
I was back to #3 before Brandy for the search term I was concentrating on, and if the right results stick, may get back to #1 now. I did some work on semantics, but in the end it was links that made the biggest difference. For another more competitive search term I was back to #1 before Brandy with virtually no on page changes, but more inbound links from on topic pages (although the page's content was already good semantically).
I think for good long term results we need to work on both content and links - if you concentrate on one and not the other you are likely to bounce all over the place as each update tweaks the algo for that factor.
I feel kind of penalized for helping G with an example of my duplicating URL, as the site is now totaly gone.
And I realy find it <let's say it litely> confusing, that GG is in fact happy with all of the things, that are going on on G those days...
I wil send a letter to webmaster at G with subject austinuodate and dmoz with more details on the points.
And two questions to GG - is there realy a Over Optimisation Penalty and what is happening with the sites, that G's "semantic" algo fails to understand?
[edited by: pavlin at 5:00 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]
If you dont like google, fine--But do not project or displace frustrations toward him as he is here to help.
And of course I have a question if you are still reading--just to confirm, you believe that the change will roll out is on the 64.****.xxetc data center?
Thanks
Obviously it is a big improvement, but it does leave me wondering what on earth they were doing rolling out the other stuff in the first place.
If it sticks we will change our intranet search default back to Google.
I am certainly willing to concede that this is just one egomaniac's opinion.
When I see Amazon book listings, I think "Why is this here? If I wanted a book I'd be searching over at Amazon. I can type a m a z o n . c o m into my browser."
When I search, I am looking for informational websites, or products to buy. If I want to buy a book, then I go directly to the Amazon or Barnes and Noble websites.
Other than that, the "new" serps look at lot like pre-Florida serps to me (which I like BTW).
A prolific expired domain spammer who had been dominating the SERPs with doorway pages in one of the areas I track is now gone.
Another spammer with some adult sites targeting non adult (and even some kid oriented) keywords has been greatly reduced.
In some areas I still see big sites with lots of backlinks, but not really very relevant pages, ranking higher than highly relevent pages of smaller sites. For example, for an apparel related search a high PR seed and garden site is in the top 20, even though the it is just happenstance that the search terms occur in various places on their home page.
And yes, the large book seller pages are still everywhere, even though I believe most people already know how to find that site, if needed.
[edited by: Jane_Doe at 6:03 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]
And after these last couple of months mixed with my excitement is my experience of seeing the daily fluctuation and so I am cautiously optimistic, stressing on the word cautious...
And what I am doing here on this computer on my vacation anyway? Just waiting for my friend to be ready to take off and enjoy the sunshine outside...
Good luck and thanks to all!
[edited by: lindavh at 5:29 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]
Also the duplicate results thing isn't gone yet.
Back in the safety of my office, I would never have touched such water. Now, like most everyone else, I'm thankful because it's a lot better than no water.
MQ