Update Brandy Part 2

[GoogleGuy]

Continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]

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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)

Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.

[Ledfish]

Just wanted to confirm what I think I'm hearing is that 64.233.161.99 is what we are supposed to end up with after progation is done?

[GoogleGuy]

I believe that's correct, Ledfish. I'd expect things to switch gradually at each data center over the course of the weekend. In a few days, it should be everywhere.

[Ledfish]

Oh god I hope so, I might have dreams again instead of Google induced nightmares.......Thanks Google, Thanks for the reply GG!

Now if I could just get rid of the spammer under my keywords, I'd be happy.....What the hell, if those are the new results, I'll just live with them.

[drewls]

GoogleGuy, can you give us any idea when that will be updated with newer data? The change in ranking is obvious, but the data is still old.

[Stefan]

Sorry to add a, "Me Too", rather than something more constructive, but 64.233.161.99 looks just fine to me overall. General serps are decent and our own site is still where it deserves to be... at the top, or close to it, for a <boat-load> of pertinent kw combos.

GG, if you're still around, I'd like to express my appreciation of how fresh the listings are for our site the last while. I put new pages online, and they're in the Google serps within a day or two. They're stickier early on as well... they used to flux in and out more for the first few weeks than they have lately.

Good stuff, Google.

[edited by: Stefan at 5:24 am (utc) on Feb. 14, 2004]

[edited by: Marcia at 10:21 pm (utc) on Feb. 14, 2004]
[edit reason] Semantic correction. [/edit]

[Chicago]

IYPs look real strong again. Just in case anyone cared.

*Our* conversations are fun these days...synonyms, semantics, and authorities. Sometimes, however, I just want to grab search volume data to most easily explain the application of the algo logic.

The brilliance of what is happening is the fact that the impersonal algo harbors dozens of business decisions.These business decisions are most evident as patterns accross industries or segments of the total index, not a particular web site rank within the index.

G's definitions of authorities look real strong again and so to does its quest to segment result sets in accordance with unknowns in user intent.

Thanks for the reply.

[shopgal]

The results look clean it's nice to see )

[kevin1023]

I am seeing the new results on www here in California.

[NazaretH]

May I ask if 64.233.161.99 has "final" index, or are there any significant ingradients to be added yet?

[More Traffic Please]

May I ask if 64.233.161.99 has "final" index, or are there any significant ingradients to be added yet?

IMHO, based on what GG has said, this will be the basis for the new SERP's. But I have a feeling there will still be a few bumps in the road over the next week before the fat lady sings.

[edited by: More_Traffic_Please at 7:32 am (utc) on Feb. 14, 2004]

[NazaretH]

Hope so. For my sites it seems like backlinks number at 64.233.161.99 is exactly what it was on all datacenter one month ago. To me it looks like the new index has great algo improvements but new backlinks are not yet counted and things should change a lot over time.

The whole picture really looks MUCH better now. I just hope that G will somehow merge the best of 64.233.161.99 and current listing that we see on www. Good luck G!

[LateNight]

Reminds me of New Coke and Coke Classic - I think Coke Classic is back on the shelves.

[pavlin]

As we can see the "post Brandy" results are more SEO friendly - it's a lot easier to understand why some page outranks the other. The forum is full of happy seo's that finaly feel that everything is under control :-))
I've not seen such a joyfull forum from a long time. Obviously most of the people that post here have at list one site that is gainig positions in the new serps. Wich is great, becouse if one plays the game by the rules and spends some time working and optimising, he would expect the good results.
What we have to see now is if the Brandy results are not only seo friendly, but also user friendly. And the only symptoms of that will be seen in the logs in the next few days. Hope they will prove, that the Austin crash is history...

[Powdork]

What we have to see now is if the Brandy results are not only seo friendly, but also user friendly. And the only symptoms of that will be seen in the logs in the next few days. Hope they will prove, that the Austin crash is history

In previous updates this is where we would point out that Joe Surfer is oblivious to algo changes or even the fact that there is an algo.

[steveb]

Google has been at its best for the past three months, even as there were problems with the mix.

I think there are still some domain-level niche emphasis tweaks to be made, and some issues involving worthless anchor text and other phantom seo to address, but overall this non-culmination point of the process just made Google a couple billion dollars.