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jetboy_70

9:30 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Like many others here, since the first stirrings of Dominic I've had an internal page ranking higher than my index page, and a corresponding slide down the SERPs for searches on my site name. In my case the internal page in question was listed on DMOZ in addition to the site as a whole. As overall Google traffic didn't seem to be affected negatively, only my pride was hurt ...

Today, everything seems to be back as it should be; the index page is returned when I search on the site name, and it has been boosted a couple a places from its pre-Dom ranking.

Is anyone else seeing this problem getting fixed for their own sites?

manilla

9:34 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yeah index back in this morning, but I still have a concern - anyone else experiencing the following?

1. Search on the keyword "widgets" and find my index in 4th place in serps (yesterday was nowhere to be seen).

2. Search on www.mydomain.co.uk and find my index in 1st place in serps.

BUT - search 1. shows up to date fresh data of 7th July whilst search 2. shows out of date info in the description (of about 5 months ago).

I'm concerned about this because when my index was in last it didn't stick for the keyword "widgets", in search 1. The site was apparently still in Google, since doing search 2. I could see the site, with the old info.

Wuschelbuschel

9:41 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Confirm ... my index pages are back as well ... german and english sites! Ok Google ... don't change it again!
I am just waiting for some more backlinks ...

John_Caius

10:35 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Finally! :) My index page once again outranks my subpages in a search for the name of my site.

Ltribe

10:51 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My index page is back and WITH a fresh date. Seems like that glitch might be fixed.

esllou

10:55 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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don't hold your breath....it will switch back again in 72 hours.

I so hope I am wrong! :-)

trillianjedi

10:56 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Relax guys, it's constantly moving around at the moment.

I do notice that new backlinks are still filtering in, this maybe having an effect.

TJ

mfishy

11:43 am on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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OK, I just checked a bunch of terms and for the first time in a long time, all the datacenters seem to be lined up.

What this means, who knows? :)

Tropical Island

1:21 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"all the datacenters seem to be lined up."

All except sj & zu which are different for our search terms.

mipapage

1:26 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All except sj & zu which are different for our search terms.

Ours too - GG mentioed -sj is a sandbox for Google, maybe -zu is an expansion of the playground... (or maybe they are one and the same right now...)

Polarisman

2:10 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I too am seeing my index page re-enter the SERPS in its customary position. This time, I am seeing quite a few July 7th fresh tags in the SERPS as well.

I am hoping that G has finaly worked out the "glitch in the matrix" that caused so many index pages to dissapear. I am not holding my breath. The lesson to me from all this is to diversify, diversify, diversify.

frances

2:41 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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va different for one of my terms. Seems like its not settled yet..... (though I wish it was)

kstprod

3:22 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dear Google Gods: Thank you for giving the SERPS back my index page and pleaseeeee oh please leave it there!

Seems to be stable on all dc's. I have everything imaginally possible on my body, crossed, that when the fresh tags disappear, all the index pages stay. :)

I do have a question though - like that's a suprise :)

Before this mess, it was #6. I changed density and reworded my text a little, and now I'm #18. I wonder if this was just a bug and I could revert the page back to the way it was when I was #6 and possible regain my position? I sure would hate to revert it, only to have it disappear again. Any thoughts?

James_Dale

3:27 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, noticed this same thing a few days ago.
One of my casino sites has re-entered the top 10, and all DC's are pretty much uniform. I'm confident this is resolved now, it just 'feels' like the clouds have cleared, and the forecast is clear.

mfishy

3:29 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<<it just 'feels' like the clouds have cleared, and the forecast is clear. >>

I hope you are right as the datacenters are pretty much lined up now and the index looks a little bit more "normal" than as of late.

I wouldn't get too excited though as just when I think some of my pages are where I need them to be, POOF- gone again :(

polarmate

5:58 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My index page is back - it usually came back at #1. It's back at #6. Not complaining in the least!

Someone said that the datacenters look nicely lined up - well, after each shuffle, they looked nicely lined up in any case. So, I am not sure if this is just another one of those things. Not getting excited about it - focusing instead on what is within my sphere of control.
;-)

eLogo

6:18 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Very strange thing: an "under construction" page on the 1st place on all the dc`s!

jaffstar

6:40 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am joining in.....

I am back, and higher than I have ever been. Although I was back 1 july and vanished 72 hours later.

Lets hope this is not the 72 hour curse of google!

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jimsthoughts

7:33 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm suprised that this isn't in it's own thread started today.....and I'm suprised that this isn't BIG news in here.... This is the biggest shift since dominic started for most of my clients.
I think Google is almost "back" to the greatness it once was with the new SERPS today.
From what I've seen things have finally "settled"...all data centers seem to be showing the same SERPS for the first time in a LONG time....it's kinda like the dance just ended ;)
I'm Feeling Lucky.

[edited by: jimsthoughts at 7:42 pm (utc) on July 8, 2003]

pretzelpub

7:35 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There's no question, Google is "back to normal". PR is being factored in fully now.

Tropical Island

7:38 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I also can't believe the threads are so quiet. Maybe everyone is just so shell shocked that they don't have the energy anymore to post.

drewls

7:43 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't know about other people, but I'm not seeing anything new here at all. So, it stopped jumping around. Doesn't mean it won't start again tomorrow. I think it's a bit early to be rushing to judgement on this.

MrSpeed

7:49 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In the case of my newer sites all the backlinks are still not being factored in correctly. So my serps were suffering.

My older high ranking sites were not experiencing the bouncing around that everybody else was seeing.

mfishy

7:51 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<<I'm suprised that this isn't in it's own thread started today.....and I'm suprised that this isn't BIG news in here....>>

The reason for this is that most of us are cautiously optimistic.

This could be the biggest/only real development since this process started, but who knows?

Things have indeed settled for the first time since the "update", but I am not confident that it will stick.

Symbios

7:52 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I made a modification to one of my sites yesterday and today it went from #12 to #1 on all of the datacentres. I thought I was onto something and that Google might be updating daily, but checking some of the SERP's for my other sites it looks like post Dominic.

I'm wondering if this is because;

The update is over and that things have settled or;

Old results/algos are being used or;

Its another 3 day cycle.

Whatever, life is never dull.

BGumble

7:53 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I *never* chime in on the 'me too' posts, but here I go...

I had a major change on my Index page today. This is a well-established info site, over 4 years old at the same address. Thousands of incoming links, home page is PR7.

It has always done well (#1 and #2) for the two word keyphrases but has languished in the 70's and 80's for the one word phrase with 2.2 million results. It's been like this for YEARS. It has never been above #75... until today, there it sits at #25.

This is not a case of hopping SERPs as these results are extremely stable and have been for years. This site has never moved... ever.. no matter how much I increase the density, decrease the density, change the title, etc. Even adding links never seemed to have much effect. Over the past few months of G instability, I've made it a mission to add properly keyworded links as the site suffers from being too well branded with a brandname domain.

Maybe those links are finally being factored in? It's impossible to tell with so many incoming links and no way to sort through to find the new ones.

Anyway, it's a beautiful day.. here is my 'me too' post.. YAY

nipear

7:57 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ohh this is the first time I've seen all my missing index pages show up in the serps about where they should. Before some would come and go, but today I see them all looking good at the same time. This is a first in some time...

Hope it sticks...

g1smd

10:33 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Anyone seeing their index's back in?

The contact page has been #1 for the last month, but now the index page is back at #1 instead.

Hmm, for a SERP returning about 135 results yeserday (and which has climbed by about one more result each day for the last few weeks), it has suddenly jumped to 147 results. My site is fresh tagged for every page of the site, and a new page that went online a few weeks ago is now suddenly also included for the first time. Backlinks: 12 are known, Google has displayed 12 / 12 and listed 12 in the lat few weeks. Now it says there are 19 but will only display the first 10 of them. There really are at least 12 still. searching again it says there are 22 then 20 links; but still refuses to list more than 10 to 12 of them.

Hmm, another page, one that has been PR5 for several years, changed content three months ago. It dropped to PR4 a month or two ago, but is now suddenly grey-barred. It is still at #2 though. The grey bar may be because the incoming links are no longer for a relevant topic.

Another site, online for two months is still without PR. The old site, loaded with noindex,follow tags and with all links pointing to the new site was cleanly dropped out of the index about 3 weeks ago. The new site was included the same day, but still without PR to this day.

edayle

10:49 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Things for us are looking up as well. We are all holding our breath!

Ltribe

11:18 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It sounds like the missing index pages are alive again.

Just curious:

1. Is PR up to date for everyone?
2. Are backlinks increasing to include missing links?
3. Are the SERPS stable, or is some shuffling still going on?

In my case, it looks like the answer to all three is 'yes'.

steveb

11:38 pm on Jul 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I certainly don't see updated PR (all post 4/15 pages still PR0), or any backlink change since about June 15.
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