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AdSense Earnings and Observations - March 2024

         

gatormark

3:13 am on Mar 1, 2024 (gmt 0)

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1.7 million page views in a month used to get me a lot more money back in the day. I’ll finish February down 8% from 2023.

MMedi26

2:58 pm on Mar 18, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@allhearts my Facebook traffic is also very down but the bonus programs pays so good that I will still pull a decent amount this and next month at least. The page building will take some time. I would focus on that right now and hopefully you’ll receive a bonus program invitation my summer. I’m honestly letting Adsense play out how it will play out. I’m hoping one of these months things will go back to normal but if it don’t I’m saving all of the Facebook money I get.

Sissi

7:16 am on Mar 19, 2024 (gmt 0)



Back to Adsense
Excellent RPM yesterday for specific websites that have been fine tuned since October in terms of content and SEO .

Adsense is definitively back, you just have to adapt or go for another platform

loboblahz

9:01 am on Mar 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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The same for me, with stability following a significant increase after a drop in revenue since January 2022.
It seems to be holding, but I remain cautious; yesterday, I also hit a revenue level equal to that of 2021, which had been my best year since 2017.

However, as I've already mentioned, I'm waiting until the end of April to consider it stable.
During the summer, I'll experience a decrease anyway due to vacations, and it won't be until the return in September that I'll have confirmation.

For several months, I was saddened to see losses of up to 50%. It's disheartening to see the increase isn't universal at the moment; I hope this will change soon.

Google is rolling out an update focused on its anti-SPAM policy on the search engine, which will significantly affect site creators who clutter the results, including with expired domains, while also giving more visibility to quality sites.

CommandDork

12:35 pm on Mar 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I've been seeing more and more non-www urls show up in my Adsense reporting lately.

Starting just this month for no apparent reason, there's data being shown for my sites in www and additional data with non-www. It use to be solely www.

Sissi

5:33 pm on Mar 19, 2024 (gmt 0)



Without Adsense there will be no Google
The search tool is the results of years of R&D funded through Adsense.
G will always need publishers and will adapt to whatever AI
What ever situation is , it will come back if we accept the rules of quality content and traffic

daniel1213

11:41 am on Mar 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Bad day. From February 23rd I received -90% drop on RPM. Today it is the same.. low. There was a slight increase last week but... unfortunately today it is down. Google's explanation: INVALID TRAFFIC. There are many who receive copy/paste answers. I blocked the traffic almost completely, I only have organic traffic. Unfortunately, today Google no longer responds to anyone through support tickets.

loboblahz

2:58 pm on Mar 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I find myself in the same situation I was in before the drop in January 2022. The third week was slightly slower compared to the rest of the month, and now I notice that it's the first time in a long time that this pattern seems to be applying again. The last week appears to be the one most targeted by some advertisers. I guess it's an e-commerce strategy. To target the time when salaries are paid out, lol.

MMedi26

10:36 pm on Mar 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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$8 RPM today but guess what I’ve made as of 5pm? $18 lol! Adsense is really dead.

daniel1213

4:36 am on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Do you think he will recover? My opinion is that if Adsense does not change its strategy, it will be a failure

Sissi

6:26 am on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)



Again Adsense is working very well for a lot of publishers who are making good money.
Do not be surprised if your traffic is not natural or your industry is not remunerative.
Wake up, RPM over 60 or 80 are not exceptional
Dont kill Adsense while it works for the majority of hard working publishers
Or stay with facebook and close your Adsense account
Sorry tired of unconstructive repeted complaints

loboblahz

7:23 am on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)

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The only thing, regarding Facebook and AdSense, is that 2 or 3 years ago, I started to be very active on Facebook (one page per site) to index on social networks. This led to an increase in my website traffic, and my girlfriend did the same for her single site. A few months later, I encountered a 3-week ad block, and the following month, she had a 7-day block due to the traffic. Since then, I've disabled AdSense on my sites when the traffic comes from Facebook and have not experienced any further issues. Additionally, I've noticed a significantly lower number of invalid clicks.

Is traffic from social networks beneficial for ranking in Google ? It's clear that this is indeed the case.
AdSense does it regard such traffic as quality? Based on my experience, not really. I would even suggest that it tends to view it as suspect.

Sissi

7:44 am on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)



Facebook traffic is for Adsense like adding water to Champagne or adding ketchup to Caviar

daniel1213

9:58 am on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@Sissi It means that all those affected are cheaters. I assure you that I have 100% organic traffic from Google that until February 23 was worth an rpm of 28-30 euros, sometimes even 40, and today it is worth 2 euros.
Please see [support.google.com...]

Here you will find dozens of affected people who are neither ADsense cheats nor malicious people, with accounts over 10-12 years old and an impeccable history.

loboblahz

10:57 am on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@daniel1213 there is, nevertheless, a segment that has seen a significant decrease, others show no difference, and yet others have experienced an increase. Therefore, it's evident that there's something within these three categories of publishers (something related to their websites) that's changing. I don't believe there are people at Adsense who have manually decided -> you will have 90% less, you won't see any change, and you will have higher earnings. My partner and I implement the same strategies for acquisition, conversion, and retention and we both see the same result, an increase; in fact, she sees an even higher increase with very, very low Facebook and other social media traffic. And our sites are built from scratch, no WordPress or other CMS.

There's something different, it's not magic.

daniel1213

11:24 am on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Then how do you explain the sudden drop of 90% without Adsense announcing anything in advance, and the Adsense support stopped responding to messages, this after saying "Invalid Traffic" to everyone. Even for websites with almost 0 traffic which were listed in Adsense.

Sissi

2:03 pm on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)



@daniel1213
Never assumed that they are cheaters
That was about complaints due to Facebook traffic.
I m running Adsense from the start 2004 or 2005
Like others I have been doing this on a clean way and had on regular basis coaching session with excellent account managers.
People opt often for easy money their methodologies had affected our business
They were 2 m adsense accounts, Google removed 700 k , in my view they need to do more.
I m here not to discuss how to cheat Adsense but to share experience and gain experience from other Adsense pros and not anything else.

Sissi

2:08 pm on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)



Adding that sticking with one industry only with Adsense is dangerous. I have had this in the past where a 3 digit monthly revenues website collapsed and learned to cover now 15 different sectors where I can share my (real) job experience
sorry for the emotional reaction

loboblahz

2:17 pm on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I will attempt to explain my analysis of the last 40 days of my sites and my conclusion, which now seems obvious and logical to me. And why I think Google's "Invalid Traffic" message might actually mean "Invalid Traffic for High CPM Ads." This message could be long.

Let's try to understand what it really means to switch from a CPC (Cost Per Click) system to a CPM (Cost Per Thousand Impressions) system. We need to think about how Google must operate to sell this.

If we put ourselves in the shoes of an advertiser, the difference between CPC and CPM is that CPC involves paying per interaction, while CPM means paying for attention received. With CPC, we sell interactions with the ads. With CPM, we sell attention time devoted to the ads or the brand.

To address this, AdSense must place high CPM ads on spots that receive a lot of attention time. It's not about traffic, but about time, to correctly bill CPM and ensure advertisers are not shortchanged.

From AdSense's perspective, it's crucial to find spots where attention time is significant, meaning pages where people stay for a long time. These are the pages where AdSense can afford to place animated ads and videos, as well as very costly ads for advertisers. It may take time to analyze the sites that show a high average attention time, on which it can then confidently publish the ads of top advertisers.

A site with many visits but where visitors quickly move from one page to another or scroll very fast, is not ideal for display because it could quickly deplete my client's budget while the visitor hasn't even seen the ad for two seconds.

I reflect on this as a developer with 30 years of experience in my field and 10 years of experience with AdSense. I wondered how, if I had to offer this service directly to clients and create my own system based on CPM billing, I could publish different types of ads in the right places, all while ensuring maximum visibility for my clients. I would start by analyzing the sites where I have placements to see how long users stay on a page and how fast they navigate to optimize the placement of ads that have a large budget.

From the site owner's perspective, it's important to have spots where the visitor stays for a long time, to optimize their attention time.

From this, I arrive at the following conclusions for my sites. I have different types of sites, and those that bring in the least are the purely informational sites. I have one that has been on the first page of its domain for years, with 50 to 60 thousand monthly visits from Google, and yet it's the least performing, barely bringing in four times the cost of hosting and domain name. But it's also the one where visitors consult several pages (low bounce rate) but change pages very quickly. I have other information sites that monetize better than the first due to their theme, and that with fewer visits. But the yield is barely acceptable.

My revenue generation leaders are my favorites. And what's their special feature? It's that my visitors, whom I prefer to call users in this case, spend 20 to 30 times more time on each page than on the first site mentioned.

The difference lies in the fact that I have pure content pages and content pages where the user has functionalities to interact with or use the content.

For these sites, the RPM (Revenue Per Mille) is $20 to $30 on weekdays, and drops to $15 on weekends.

Two of these sites have only 5 pages in total, but can generate up to $80 on the best days for 2000 page views.

All these sites target the same regions, and the niches are different. The only correlation between the high-performing sites and the less profitable ones is the time spent per page, that is, the attention time I offer to AdSense advertisers. Moreover, I have observed a 200% increase (simplifying) in video ads, which clearly require the most attention time.

So, let's forget the traffic obsession; I am convinced that the real issue is the attention time per visitor, and not just the bounce rate or the total time spent on the site, but the time devoted to each page.

This remains my own analysis, but it's the only explanation that makes sense when I look at AdSense's behavior on my sites. The difference lies in this parameter.

Next step? Check your data and think about what kinds of functionalities you can offer to your users with your content.

Sissi

3:28 pm on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)



very useful Thanks

dolcevita

4:25 pm on Mar 21, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I always reply when I complain, but this time I want to praise the exceptional 20 days, from the moment I turned on Offerwall, so that yesterday (and today, at least as things currently stand, will be the same, if not better than yesterday) experienced all the culmination and brilliance of last year 2023, with $20 CPC and RPM close to $7.00 and with earnings well above $100. I hope that this positive trend will continue.

Seppone

10:03 am on Mar 22, 2024 (gmt 0)



Regarding all the reports about suspensions due to social media traffic: I have experienced temporary suspensions too, but they were removed after 1-2 weeks.
To me it seemed that Google was more concerned about a sudden surge of traffic and less about quality. I had the impression that they suspended, analysed the traffic and when found it was 'okay' then reinstated the account.

MMedi26

2:37 pm on Mar 22, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@Sissi I’m free to express my opinion just like you’re free to express yours. If you don’t like it, respond to something you like and stop responding to me love.

MMedi26

2:43 pm on Mar 22, 2024 (gmt 0)

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But anyways, I haven’t had any violations on my Adsense thankfully. I’m just doing what I’ve been doing hoping the future months will be better. While my Adsense is on the lower end this month, my Facebook revenue is doing great. Got paid over $20k this month from FB.

Sissi

5:18 pm on Mar 22, 2024 (gmt 0)



@MMedi26
I respect your opinion.
I m not sure your FB problemd
S are the right place here.
Come with suggestions and facts about adsense.
I m happy that you got USD 20 k this month quite impressive.
Very impressive.
As you mentioned that you made 20 USD with adsense so leave adsense

MMedi26

5:31 pm on Mar 22, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@Sissi Worry about your business and site. I never asked for your personal opinion of whether I should leave or stay with Adsense. Again, respond to the people you connect with because you’re clearly not connecting with me and I’m for surely not connecting with you.

allhearts

6:51 pm on Mar 22, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Peace @Sissi & @MMedi26,

We all have our point of views, I'm sure many of us also have a difference in opinion sometimes, but this forum's strength is from all of us sharing our experiences and exchanging ideas with each other, we all learn and benefit from it even if sometimes we disagree.

I recently had a fallout with someone here and deeply regret it, wish I could take it back.

Have a great weekend.

Sissi

7:17 pm on Mar 22, 2024 (gmt 0)



@allhearts Peace on you too and on Mmedi26

other subject: just realised how much revenues Google made with adsense in 2023 : USD 234 bln

[statista.com...]

MMedi26

4:31 pm on Mar 23, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Is there a glitch today? Adsense isn’t counting my views correctly this morning.

Sissi

5:10 am on Mar 24, 2024 (gmt 0)



Revenues are stable even during the weekend and despite Easter Holidays.
Some industries are going up in terms of RPM , especially those are linked to services linked to cover consumers urgent needs.
New : in my portfolio a half dozen of website are showing revenues in www. and without

not2easy

11:48 am on Mar 24, 2024 (gmt 0)

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showing revenues in www. and without
That is odd, but I noticed someone had mentioned the same issue in this thread a few days ago. Early on Mar 19 CommandDork noticed that too. (in Msg#5103441).

Technically there should be only one accessible version for a domain because Google considers those (example.com and www.example.com) to be two separate domains.
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