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December 2011 AdSense Earnings & Observations

         

HuskyPup

10:38 am on Dec 1, 2011 (gmt 0)



Oh heck, here we go into what is, for many of us, traditionally the worst month of the year. Any bets for when the big drop in earnings starts...20th/21st December?

ember

5:14 am on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

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December is usually my worst month, but it is turning out to be one of the better months this year. Weird but good.

rowtc2

8:14 am on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

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It looks they are adjusting earnings, in December was better in previous year(s).

HuskyPup

11:49 am on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)



25th December 2010 is my worst-ever AdSense day, I'll bet that's going to easily be beaten within the next couple of days. I'll be hard-pressed to earn this month what I used to do in a couple of days just 4-5 years ago.

Meanwhile our B&M business is at an all-time high with confirmed advanced orders for 2012 exceeding even my best forecasts...and that's across many countries, all of them up, not just one.

It's good to know that the real world makes G's histrionics farcical for some publishers.

HuskyPup

8:44 pm on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)



Any bets for when the big drop in earnings starts...20th/21st December?


By 'eck, I was a bit accurate with that! My earnings have fallen off the edge today. My logs are showing similar traffic to Monday's yet G reckons it's half that and my CTR is abysmal...I've just made enough to buy 2 beers tonight:-(

Unpredict2ble

8:57 pm on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Is Google AdSense a way of earning money online? If so, I'm interested in learning more.

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jmccormac

9:18 pm on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

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They must be celebrating with the hamster dance in banjax central today. Absolutely dire figures. No doubt we'll see some press release about how they are donating billions to some good cause.

Regards...jmcc

IanCP

9:29 pm on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

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It's good to know that the real world makes G's histrionics farcical for some publishers

Thanks HP. Another keyboard ruined with coffee spray.

JCKline

9:34 pm on Dec 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I've just made enough to buy 2 beers tonight:-(

HP, that's 2 more beers then I can afford today. I'll be poring another cup of toilet water...yum.

andrewshim

4:37 am on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Meanwhile our B&M business is at an all-time high with confirmed advanced orders for 2012 exceeding even my best forecasts...and that's across many countries, all of them up, not just one.


You know, Husky, I often wonder why you put up with Adsense when your B&M business is a global money maker. I can understand when you got 5-figure checks from Google, but if you're barely making enough for beer every day...(?) I'm just saying that if I were running a worldwide business, I probably wouldn't be as passionate about Adsense as you are! I'm sure lots of folks would give their right little toe to be in your B&M shoes! Then again... you are one smart Puppy so I guess you have your reasons! Happy Christmas HP! ;)

HuskyPup

11:36 am on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)



SPLAT ... Tuesday was USD 0.60 from being my lowest-ever day however my prediciton is that today is easily going to beat that. EPC fine, CTR dire, big difference between my logs and G impressions ... hmmm

I often wonder why you put up with Adsense


It's very simple Andrew, apart from making a bit extra money without actually having to do any extra work apart from adding code, as you know my sites are well-ranked for specific trade widget terms in many different countries.

Before AdSense was launched I used to get hundreds of enquiries a month from Joe Public wanting to know where they could buy my widgets, if I could supply them direct etc. As you know I'm a full container load only producer and pointing JP in the right direction every day was a right royal PITA.

Along came AdSense in 2003 which provided all my answers, install it and let advertisers in their respective countries promote their own businesses using my sites.

Because AdSense was so new to JP, obviously in the early years and whilst there was a global boom occurring, my AdSense did extremely well. Even after the 2008 meltdown I continued to do well, not in the UPS club any more but enough not to need to draw ANY earnings from the business whatsoever.

In the last couple of years or so I have seen some wild fluctuations way outside of my norms, these have always been on the low side, never a high side spike! Just before Thanksgiving in November 2010 I was hit big time, a 50% reduction in earnings for no reason whatsoever but come January then February 2011 earnings suddenly went back up again purely at G's behest.

I did nothing, they did, my advertisers were the same, my page impressions were the same, CTR went up, earnings were up and then, and then came, for me, the infamous Panda 2.1 of May 6th. My earnings were slashed to 47% overnight, my CTR was well down however my EPC remained more or less the same and has continued until now at this new, much lower level and now at the point of me waiting until w/c January 9th to evaluate whether or not to keep AdSense on the sites.

For those who are wondering for a metrics' comparison just from one year ago for one site 1st December until 20th December, 2011 v 2010:

Impressions 131.4%
Clicks 48%
CTR 36.6%
EPC 108.7%
eCPM 39.6%
Earnings 52.1%

How much has the global economy got to do with it? I'm sure there is some however MY evidence is that Panda 2.1 had a devastating effect on my AdSense earnings and as you can see from the figures above this specific site has nearly a 1/3 extra impressions but with drastically cut earnings.

I do not feel it is coincidental that Google posts record earnings meanwhile many of us see and report massively lowered returns.

So I'll make a decision in mid-January, if AdSense recovers I'll be delighted however I am realistically not expecting anything much more than the monthly earnings since May 6th but what I do know is that I am launching one new site a month during 2012 and none of them are going to be carrying any form of advertising whatsoever except maybe one AdLink.

Rockyou

1:08 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Husky if your minimum adsense income is below $300, then why bother about such biz. I would not consider it even as a timepass option.

zerillos

1:57 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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big difference between my logs and G impressions


same here. maybe stats are slow/stuck

ElvisFan

2:12 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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To HuskyPup and all posters here... may I wish you all a very Merry Christmas but mostly a Prosperous Adsense 2012.

Thank you all for keeping me on my toes with your wealth of information... I raise my glass... the drinks are on me... oh I forgot... I can't afford it anymore

HuskyPup

4:14 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)



Husky if your minimum adsense income is below $300


If it were below $300 I can assure you I wouldn't even bother with it, I'm still in the low USD four figures these days therefore you can probably understand why I do continue with it at the moment, however, as already noted, if earnings do not pick up substantially the second week of January then I'll consider what to do.

And today I've just launched a new UK specific site on a trade keyword domain name with zero advertising on it. This will be interesting:-)

andrewshim

4:32 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I'm still in the low USD four figures these days


Sigh... if I could get that for just one year, I'd be a real happy bunny.

azn romeo 4u

6:11 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Four figures is still a lot. That's rent, and car payments and what not. I wouldn't quit until it gets under 500. Then we got some serious problems.

Since the 17th...I'm lost 20 cent in ecpm. Doesn't sound like much but serving 100's of thousands of pageviews per day, it adds up quick. Also ctr is gone down 20%

Still on pace for record month all time though *knocks on wood*

HuskyPup

7:32 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)



Just coming up to half an AdSense day and earnings are precisely 50% of yesterday, CTR up slightly however EPC so far is averaging 60% ... I'm trying to think of a good game to play for Sunday related to AdSense, any good ideas?

jmccormac

7:39 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Looks like bajax central is off at their Christmas party today and they've forgotten to leave a few hamsters in charge of the Adsense wheel.

Regards...jmcc

JCKline

9:02 pm on Dec 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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...and they've forgotten to leave a few hamsters in charge of the Adsense wheel.

The hamsters are there, but they've had too much eggnog.

Play_Bach

12:54 am on Dec 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Another horrible AdSense day so far. :-(

IanCP

8:44 am on Dec 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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A new record low. Thanks Panda.

HuskyPup

12:11 pm on Dec 22, 2011 (gmt 0)



WooHoo ... Totally blew away one of my all-time records yesterday ... A single click on a url channel from the USA for USD 12.00 .!.!.!

Was that from an advertiser who actually meant to bid $0.12 ?

And so far today I've earned $0.10 ... hahaha

Play_Bach

2:04 am on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Stats stuck all day.

ElvisFan

2:44 am on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I don't understand these Panda updates. Why should it cut my earnings by half when I have the same traffic and my google exposer is still the same.

IanCP

6:32 am on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Why should it cut my earnings by half when I have the same traffic

My experience is that is not Panda.

When all else remains the same and traffic via Google drops into a hole? That's Panda.

HuskyPup

12:15 pm on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)



As expected a new record low established yesterday, today's looking even worse at the moment.

Why should it cut my earnings by half when I have the same traffic


This is precisely what I have been asking since Panda 2.1 on May 6th. The section of one of my Pandalised sites was a Coppermine gallery that generated 10% of my earnings yet overall site earnings were cut to 47%.

Some people say that it wasn't Panda, it sure as heck wasn't purely coincidental that with the launch of 2.1 my earnings were slashed.

Lame_Wolf

1:12 pm on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Why should it cut my earnings by half when I have the same traffic and my google exposer is still the same.

Same traffic, maybe.
Same visitors, no.
Same advertisers, not always.
Same advertisers paying the same today (per click) than yesterday, no.
Advertisers budgets decreasing, possible.

Lame_Wolf

1:15 pm on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Why should it cut my earnings by half when I have the same traffic


My experience is that is not Panda.


Agree.

When all else remains the same and traffic via Google drops into a hole? That's Panda.


Agree.

Play_Bach

2:47 pm on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)

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> Same visitors, no.
> Same advertisers, not always.

That's what I think is happening too. It's as if Panda shuffled the deck so that some of us are getting a completely different set of visitors and advertisers than before and they don't match well to our sites at all.

HuskyPup

3:48 pm on Dec 23, 2011 (gmt 0)



Same visitors, no.


I disagree IF my log referrals are correct, similar visitors with similar queries through similar searches from the usual countries. Why will some of you just not accept that on ONE day earnings were halved with an iteration of one Panda?

Read this again and again, my CTR from 1st Feb 2011 until May 5th was 1.47% from May 6th until 31st August 1.02% and in that period I NEVER had ONE day with a 1.47% CTR.

I have the evidence provided to me by Google, period, earnings halved over night. This month alone my impressions are up over Dec 2010 by nearly 1/3rd yet earnings are half of this time last year. Which bit of this do some of you find incomprehensible?

Same advertisers, not always.


Agreed however my UK ones still seem to be the same plus my average EPC has held firm.
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