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4:35 pm on Jun 1, 2019 (gmt 0)

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The following message was cut out of thread at: https://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4944194.htm [webmasterworld.com] by robert_charlton - 11:00 am on Jun 1, 2019 - (PDT -8)


Also, with the ad model a majority of people know that you are trying to get something out of them - a purchase, a signup etc - so there is a lesser level of trust there but if they find you through organic whilst they are in the research stage and you provide good info and value, then there is trust built and you get more sales.

On the other hand, people who are actively shopping for a product or service may regard ads as useful information. That was the concept behind Yellow Pages directories and magazines like Computer Shopper.



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Another update/change has also been rolled out that aims to make search results more diverse by not repeating articles from the same site.

This is potentially a really big change.
..Unless they exempt Youtube and Amazon
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after one of the updates some time ago the multiple listings from the same domain became a big problem. I posted in one of these monthly threads an example of booking.com pretty much taking up every result on pages 1, 2 and even 3 or more for some locations when you searched for "hotel in <location>" . Just trying again now after seeing that about the update and it does seem better than before , with booking.com having just 2 of the top 2 results. The exception I saw was if you search "booking hotel in <location>" and they still seem to own the word "booking" . It is an improvement at least though in respect to this particular issue I had flagged.
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Well, now we know why google announced it on twitter .It was really big and did a solid mass destruction of the SERPs, I see most of my competitor including me see a downward traffic change ranging from 20 to 40% . If everyone had a traffic decline the big question is who gained? . I still believe though that the other 200+ signals would pick the affected good sites and put them in right place once this turbulence gets over which has always been the case for me .

Fingers crossed and good luck everyone . This certainly is the most scary algorithm update i have seen so far :( .
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@aristotle top stories, video snippets, image carousels are not affected by this change.

Pinterest is going to be hit hard, though it may not apply to all queries.
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Search console just updated with new stats.
12:52 am on June 7, 2019 (gmt 0)

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My god this new search console. Is there any way to make the box bigger. It's so awkward having to scroll left to right/right to left all the time to see all the columns.
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My site seems to be back in the good graces of Google and is still rising in SEMrush. I still don't see how I can be pushing out large corps out of the top three and regaining almost 30 top three ranking terms (90+ in total), yet my traffic is slightly down week over week. This makes no sense...when a massive upward swing in visibility brings no added traffic whatsoever something is really rotten in Denmark.
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We were not megatively impacted by the August, March and May updates. In fact we gained 30% increase with the May update. Now traffic is 60% down. We experienced 20% drop on Monday and it has been going downward since then. We are an info/tutorial tech site with the majority of our traffic coming from India, Nigeria, and the U.S. The India traffic is zero and almost 90% of the Nigeria traffic is gone. I hope they rectify this nightmare.
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Just had my one latest article get links from sites like Forbes and it is still on the last position of Google News. It's really unfair, they aren't even ranking my articles which just got backlinks.
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Sorry for your misadventures @MayankParmar . I see several "problems" .

If Forbes (or other big sites) put a link to your article, then , it certainly means they wrote an article on the same subject, and may be quoting you, or referring to your article as additional resources. So, if both Frobes and "you" wrote an article on the same subject, then it's obvious that Google will favor the content provided by an authoritative site like Forbes. If authoritative sites are often linking to you then, with the time, it will build your own authority in the domain, but, it takes times to acquire such status, I would say 4-5 years at least. You can't become authoritative quickly. A status of authoritative has to be built and consolidated over a long period of time.

An other issue is that, if your articles are "interesting" at the point that big sites are linking to them, then there are chances (bad luck) that others will want to profit from it too, and write similar articles than yours, and if plenty of articles look the same, it's diluting yours, and you get lost in the mass.

edit: also, I believe that, Google might judge the authoritative status of a site by the amount of visitors a site is receiving from non-search engines. If people find and go to a site directly, it suggests the site is famous (= authoritative) enough too.
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@Dimitri I have no problem with Google favouring Forbes. That's fine. But my problem is Google pushing me to the last position of the last page. Above me, there are totally irrelevant and random stories.

It only started happening after the update.
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MayankParmar, congrats on getting the recognition from Forbes. How did they find the article if it was on the last page? Sounds like a penalty to me.
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The situation is as worse as the manual penalty. I don't know what I should do. The site has all organic backlinks, dofollow links from big publications and even some big multinational technology companies.

I also get positive comments and emails from the readers. I am also updating my old articles and fixing broken links, formatting issues. None of my rivals is doing this.

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@Jez123 Some of my rival sites covered the story and linked to me. They appear on Top Stories and Forbes found it from them.

[imgur.com...]

topics like these are above me even on the last page. This is for a technology keyword.
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Worst week in 20+ years. The downward spiral continues...just about at zero, yet still holding #1 and 2 positions. INCREDIBLE. Thanks AI.

If I were to estimate the total population of the Earth by my web traffic, I would guess under 1 million.
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@MayankParmar, okay I see. I wonder if it's related to the "attempt" (experimentations) from Google at "diversifying" results of the SERP (or Google News) mixing exactly related contents, with what Google "believes" "might" be more or less directly related, and more or less interest users too. Also, if Google is really using AI technologies (which I do not believe), there is a learning curve to train an AI,trying everything and observing the behavior of visitors to learn what visitors are expecting...
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The twitter post by Google Search yesterday:

"Have you ever done a search and gotten many listings all from the same site in the top results? We've heard your feedback about this and wanting more variety. A new change now launching in Google
Search is designed to provide more site diversity in our results…."

Indicates that this is part of the June Core update and not a new one as others have suggested. I have seen a slight decrease in duplication in my niche.

Would be nice if Google went after sites that changed the dates on their articles (and in titles). My niche is full of these
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Indeed @JesterMagic, @MayankParmar posted this yesterday.
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...just about at zero, yet still holding #1 and 2 positions. INCREDIBLE. Thanks AI.


@samwest Are you saying that you haven't lost any ranking but your traffic has gone completely?
I'm seeing a big climb in ranking and no traffic boost, I'm down slightly actually... Despite lots of new top 3 placement. Truly odd and sucks the joy out of the recovery foe me. It's been 9 months since my site started to go down and I've lost 35% of traffic since then.

Can anyone explain how this is possible?
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Traffic is down about 80% now. 170 articles on the site, long-form content. Most of the best-performing ones (even with no backlinks to them) are now on page 5-6 instead of position 1. These articles in question started from page 5-6 when first published but slowly gained rankings over about 3-4 months, and now it's like they have been reset.

This is worse than August 1st. :(
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I have 8000 articles, a huge number of backlinks and yet I am totally crushed. 60-70% drop as of today.
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@whoa182 same sinking boat here in Brazil.

My domain is 12 years old, 150 original content articles about a specific niche, domain name is the keyword.

For almost all search queries that I was on first page last month, now are 20, 30 positions behind in SERP in a matter of 5 days.

This is unbelievable.
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@ ichthyous yes, that is exactly what I am experiencing. Page 1, number 1 organic listings yet virtually zero traffic. The only traffic I am seeing is return (site members) and referal spam.

Goofle now stacks so much other content in the heat map hot spots that even with #1 listings, you might as well be on page 100. My best years were when my listings were above the fold....no more.
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From the looks of the SERPs I watch, this seems to be all about trust/authority/brand strength. I'm seeing a lot of major retailers outranking us now where just a week ago we outranked them. And this is for multiple sites we run.

I'm also seeing major pubs outranking us even though we're far more relevant to the niche and with more demonstrated niche expertise: think New York Magazine and Mashable outranking a very authoritative publishing site that focuses exclusively on camping for camping-related product reviews/keywords.

If that's the case and this is about dialing up the big brands, then it's not as much about original, long form content or how many quality backlinks you might have so much as it's about branded signals and looking like a real company that earns press coverage, branded searches, branded mentions, co-citations, and so on....

Anyway, that's my early take so far based on what I'm seeing.
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im experiencing similar , drop in traffic around 30-40% (down about 70-80% in the last 2 years), yet my positions remain good. The strangest for me is the conversions which for the last two days have been nothing at all but then a window of a couple of hours late afternoon when I get a burst which ends up being a decent amount. Whilst Im glad I have got those these last 2 days I dont trust it , cant see that happening everyday and it makes me nervous.
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Is recovery even possible before the next core update?
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm in a bit of a panic right now and trying to figure out a solution. Even building a new site will take months just to gain any organic traffic. I should have prepared for this last year and built up a few websites outside of health.

I think it is about trust and branding. There is a blog ranking above me with a PA of 9 DA 8 on moz and 67% spam rating. But he has appeared on TV (even featured briefly in a clip on Oprah) and is mentioned around the web. His content is really poor and broken links all over the site. His "how to" guide is about 400 words and mine is 2500. He barely touches on the topic as well.

And this tells me a lot: A reddit share of my blog post is ranking above my actual article for the same keyword.

It's like I've been penalized or something.
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His "how to" guide is about 400 words and mine is 2500.

My comment is generic, no about this particular example, but people should stop this non-sense of minding / comparing the number of words of a page.
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The most experienced and who have seen this happening in the last years.
What do you think about it?
What would be the immediate solution?
Start a new project and let this one rest for now?
Do you think it could be a kind of punishment?
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I've been reading about people wanting to drop their site and maybe change to a different topic or genre. Are these sites that are being spun up when one gets spanked by an update for the sole purpose of Adsense or some other type of monetization? I've had a single site for 16 years and I can't imagine jumping from topic to topic for the sole purpose of making money with ads. Don't get me wrong, I like making money with ads, but I would not create a website in a genre I didn't consider myself an expert. Where would I possibly get my content? Hire experts, copy it from another site? Fake it?

Maybe this behavior is the reason why were in this state now.
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