Has Google Started Rolling Out Panda 2.2 ?

[Gorgwatcher]

Has anyone noticed abnormal activity of Google Crawler?

It has started deep crawling again just like it did before Panda 1.0

I had a sharp spike in my crawling since last 2 days.

Traffic has also started to decrease with abnormal behavior. Means there is a sudden decline and spike situation.

This is exactly what happened before Panda. Deep crazy crawling and sharp decline in traffic.

Anyone else noticed this behavior?

[Planet13]

To put it bluntly, if you were so far successful at ranking because of xrumer-style backlinks (any links you arranged, en masse) and you didn't have much in the way of real backlinks, then you may have seen the bottom fall out around Monday-Tuesday.

Thanks for the clarification. I am GLAD to hear this!

Again, as for the 14th being a Panda-related change, the SERPS I watch have been stable since before Panda (it is like Panda never even happened in these few verticals).

So if I were a gambling man (which I ain't), my feeling is there is a large black-and-white bear doing some regurgitation somewhere.

[canuckseo]

I have about 100 domains - about 1/2 the sites are Canadian content, 1/2 are US content. While we sailed through Panda1 and actually improved traffic on both sides of the border, panda2 hit us - about 10% drop in Canada, 20% in US.

Canada was more or less back to where it was after about a month, still down about 5%. US sites never recovered.

Now, comparing traffic - Canadian sites are down about 4% over last weeks traffic, US are up about 4% over last week. Also seeing a huge increase in crawling on the sites by googlebot this week (last week bing was heavy crawling, fyi).

So US sites seems to be improving now - hope it keeps up!

[brinked]

this thread is painful to watch. I think most of these posts belong in the june thread. Remember folks, google makes other changes besides panda.

I think Google should just flat out come out and say when they will "re run the data" so at least webmasters will know or not if they have recovered from panda or not. It seems not knowing is what is causing everyone to be so uptight.

[Planet13]

Canadian sites are down about 4% over last weeks traffic...

Of course, we had games 6 and 7 of the Stanley Cup finals (as well as the ensuing riots in Vancouver) that probably affected ALL internet traffic in Canada this week.

[germanprisoner]

I saw crawl drops and that you can touch the crawl rate within the webmaster tools. this function is activating and deactivating from time to time.

All other behave normal here in Spain. have to check other websites around the globe, will tell you

[outland88]

I'd say you've brought it all together very accurately Tedster. The only real oddity I'm seeing is suddenly a bunch of high PR scrapers are usurping me. This is not unusual for what people have been mentioning for the past few months but these should have been showing up all along but never did. That tells me they’re having problems with their new scraper fix. It also tells me they’re trying to return some old results but are hurting what was supposed to be better. IMO they seem to be brewing quite a mess with different data sets and don’t seem to care much as long as immunity is given to the first couple pages of the returned results.

[CathyM]

I am also noticing, "the wide range of other Google.tld results from my referrer logs." My sites are U.S. centric and I am seeing more UK and other countries traffic for keywords that ranked for my sites last year in the US but are not ranking very well now.

[Dantes100]

Can somebody explain this to me:

I've been hit very hard by panda in April. Now suddenly all my old rankings are back but ONLY in google.de and google.co.uk (checking with a German IP). I don't seem to have any increase in traffic from these rankings.

I am still buried in google.com.

My site is completely in English but the server is located in Germany.

Why am I not back for google.com?

[Timetraveler]

Just wanted to chime in and say we saw our site back in the SERPS today after last weeks 'whatever it was'. The site went from off the charts to back on page #1 for competitive term and other pages are ranking well again.

We had no link buys, hired the most expensive/professional writers and have no advertising on the site.

I did de-optimize the homepage a little for on-page text and anchor text. Cache date is still lagging so not sure if that was the cure, or just coincidence.

Hopefully this is sign of good things to come with Google ranking professional content and a 2.2 update. Best wishes to those still hurt by this. :(

[freejung]

suddenly all my old rankings are back but ONLY in google.de and google.co.uk

I'm seeing similar results -- not exactly the same as pre-Panda rankings, but massively improved on google.co.uk. Still completely Pandalized on google.com.

[supercyberbob]

Pretty funny seeing reports of pre-Panda serps, in other google TLDs and on google.com.

Why are "old" serps or rankings even being tested if that is indeed what's happening?

Testing or not, I get a sense of some sort of rollback.

But wait, wasn't Panda supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread that improved search quality and cured cancer?

Maybe the emperor has no clothes. Is Panda 2.2 really just Panda 0.1?

Only YOU can decide.

[Dantes100]

I'm seeing similar results -- not exactly the same as pre-Panda rankings, but massively improved on google.co.uk. Still completely Pandalized on google.com.

Is this good news or old news?

[Joshmc]

I am seeing some pre panda results on Google.co.uk as well but they are not reflected on google.com

[freejung]

Why are "old" serps or rankings even being tested if that is indeed what's happening?

The SERPs I'm seeing on google.co.uk are definitely not the "old" pre-Panda SERPS. My rankings are much better than on google.com but not exactly the same as they were pre-Panda -- most notably, my homepage is still #4 for my main keyword for which I was #1 for years pre-Panda. There is no way whatsoever that I rank #4 for this keyword without at least some aspects of Panda in place.

However, some (but not all) subpages have returned to positions similar to (but not exactly identical to) their pre-Panda positions.

Whatever they're doing on google.co.uk, it's not a rollback of Panda, and neither is it the same as what's on google.com.

Here's hoping it's actually the next generation of Panda!

[outland88]

But wait, wasn't Panda supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread that improved search quality and cured cancer?

One can't help but think that. Bad thing is July and August are fast approaching and that's when all the US Google millionaires go on vacation for a few months. In other words what is hatched in the next few weeks could stick for the rest of the summer. As a side note with some of the insider trading going on lately at Google a few may be smelling trouble. Somebody is saying Panda isn't driving up stock prices or the "love factor" for us.

[seodudez]

For those of you that got hit by the update on June 14th can you tell me/us what time this happened for you in your time zone?

Mine; June 14, 2 PM Eastern

[roodle]

2 sites I monitor closely have shown remarkably level traffic the last 4 days. Very much like pre-Panda days. Also notable is how on a Friday, a day when both these sites always tended to get lower traffic, they've both maintained their levels from previous days.

The traffic flow across the day also seems to have changed its pattern. When I used to check the traffic towards late afternoon I could tell roughly what the daily total might be, but now there seems to be a late surge for both sites.

[thirteen]

Got a bump up on Google UK and Canada but not USA.

Google USA did get a bump up but it didn't last for more than 3 hours. I don't expect the bump up on Google UK and Canada to last more than 3 days.

Last time I got bump up, it was gone by Monday.

[hyperhifi]

Could this be the global roll out of Panda to non english sites? I got hit 20% or so on Panda 1 and 2, but recovered after a lot of work. Now I'm down about 40% and for the first time in countries like Germany, Portugal and Italy. Asia remains unchanged on any iteration.

[indyank]

Could this be the global roll out of Panda to non english sites? I got hit 20% or so on Panda 1 and 2, but recovered after a lot of work. Now I'm down about 40% and for the first time in countries like Germany, Portugal and Italy. Asia remains unchanged on any iteration.

i am not even sure how you are guessing it to be a gloabl rollout of panda and the information that you had given is totally confusing.

1) Are you talking about stats for different sites?
2) Are you seeing the drop of 40% now for sites in European languages but don't see any changes for sites in Asian languages?
3) Have you made changes to English language sites to recover the loss of 20%?
4) Was the recovery to the same pages where you lost traffic or you see a different traffic patter now? Even among the few who claim to have recovered, it isn't recovery of pages that lost ranking/traffic but it is a different traffic pattern that ensured the same overall traffic volume. These few people are those who have been minimally affected by Panda.

We are not seeing any big changes to English language sites that suggest an algo change for them, except for a few commerce sites.

[Sgt_Kickaxe]

I'm holding my own but I see a new competitor for a lot of my best pages, ebay. Since Google averages more than a change a day according to Matt Cutts I'm surprised I don't see more competitors popping in and out honestly.

of course those rankings don't mean much since what I see isn't necessarily what is served up to others anymore...

[martinacastro]

For one of my sites, one of the most competitive kws since june 15 is dancing ... from position 50 to position 140 to position 200 to position 50 to position 120 to position 140...

for other kws the movements are less, for example from position 49 to 68

Any idea?

Regards

[tedster]

Martin, is page 1 of those search results also dancing for you?

[nippi]

i am seeing recovery only in sites where I have fixed content.

I am currently managing 5 sites that are pandalised.

All had dupe or thin content issues.

Sites 1 and 2 I have so far totally reworked about 40% of the content, these have seen a strong recovery in the last 48 hours.

Sites 3,4,5 have dropped further.

[martinacastro]

Thanks tedster for your post

I will take a look more carefully but seems that page 1 search results dance only a bit (between 1 or 2 sites), but from page 2 the dance is more notorious.

Any idea?

[martinacastro]

nippi me too. I solved dupe content in october 2010 and recover and improve since march when I solve thin content

[Zivush]

I am seeing some pre panda results on Google.co.uk as well but they are not reflected on google.com

15% increase on non US.
I am not absolutely sure yet, but I get the same experience as mentioned above - slight improvement in non US territories.
It might be a seasonal increase for the topics I covered.
So don't get this for granted yet.

[Zivush]

I am seeing some pre panda results on Google.co.uk as well but they are not reflected on google.com


15% increase on non US.
I am not absolutely sure yet, but I get the same experience as mentioned above - slight improvement in non US territories.
It might be a seasonal increase for the topics I covered.
So don't get this for granted yet.

Sorry - it is seasonal and not related to any Panda recovery.
I've just compared to the year 2010 metrics.

[tedster]

@martinacastro - I think we're seeing some major statistical sampling by Google and I'm trying to pin down the mechanism they're using. Have you taken notice of the Google IP address that each set of results comes from?

[AlexB77]

Hey to all,

What we all seeing at the moment (and I am only talking about GWT) is not panda 2.2 is in fact a pre panda 2.2 check (Little unfortunate but I am not able to mention the name of the Google employee, who has provided me with this info). Now I my self was badly pandalized in March and then in April and the only thing that cam back is my site links, bot no traffic is coming back to any pre panda levels at all.

One other thing what is still not being mentioned anywhere is that in Fact between 24th February and now Google made 17 other roll outs of Panda, so I am totally lost whether it is Panda 0.1, 1.0, 2.0 or 2.2. What do we really know about this.