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i am not even sure how you are guessing it to be a gloabl rollout of panda and the information that you had given is totally confusing.
1) Are you talking about stats for different sites?
2) Are you seeing the drop of 40% now for sites in European languages but don't see any changes for sites in Asian languages?
3) Have you made changes to English language sites to recover the loss of 20%?
4) Was the recovery to the same pages where you lost traffic or you see a different traffic patter now? Even among the few who claim to have recovered, it isn't recovery of pages that lost ranking/traffic but it is a different traffic pattern that ensured the same overall traffic volume. These few people are those who have been minimally affected by Panda.
We are not seeing any big changes to English language sites that suggest an algo change for them, except for a few commerce sites.
Danny Sullivan: Where are we now? Panda 2, Panda 2.1? Are we at Panda 2.2?
Matt Cutts: There’s another change coming soon. I don’t know when we’ll launch fully internationally, not just in English.
@martinacastro - I think we're seeing some major statistical sampling by Google and I'm trying to pin down the mechanism they're using. Have you taken notice of the Google IP address that each set of results comes from?
[edited by: Whitey at 12:04 am (utc) on Jun 19, 2011]
RankInge and traffic improvement is on all pages but highest on the pages I fixed.
[edited by: Whitey at 12:15 am (utc) on Jun 19, 2011]
[edited by: Whitey at 12:27 am (utc) on Jun 19, 2011]
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7:35 pm on Apr 21, 2011 (utc -5)
I think its clear that Panda appplies a 2 part filter
(1) All your #*$!ty pages get hammered.
(2) your main pages, usually the not #*$!ty ones, get hammered too.
You need to fix a great mahority of the #*$!ty pages, for the non #*$!ty penalty to be removed site wide. Fixing indivudal pages will undoubely see them improve, but youve got to cross that "ive fixed almost all of the #*$!ty pages" threshold to see a sitewide fix.
I have two sites,one penlaised, one not.
both have lots of articles.
both have huge business direcotires, which by any definition, are thin.
Difference is the one not penalized has better(read - totally unqiue articles, not articles based on wikipedia slightly changed) and also, it does not have lots of random content like "4 featured businesses" on every page.
The large thin business directory, seems not to be the major problem, its the article farm/dupe content/lack of unqiue content to the page becuase you are putting content that appears on other pages on every page that is the big problem.
I am rewriting articles as fast as i can and yes, I see indiivual fixed pages rise in rankings within 7 days... am racing to that threshhold.
If you claim to have all unique articles, but still got hit. Take a good hard look at them. Are they articles that are slightly different than what else is out there? Are they on average.... short.... or on average.... 500 words? If so, you need to harden up and take action.
[edited by: walkman at 1:06 am (utc) on Jun 19, 2011]
Hey to all,
What we all seeing at the moment (and I am only talking about GWT) is not panda 2.2 is in fact a pre panda 2.2 check (Little unfortunate but I am not able to mention the name of the Google employee, who has provided me with this info). Now I my self was badly pandalized in March and then in April and the only thing that cam back is my site links, bot no traffic is coming back to any pre panda levels at all.
One other thing what is still not being mentioned anywhere is that in Fact between 24th February and now Google made 17 other roll outs of Panda, so I am totally lost whether it is Panda 0.1, 1.0, 2.0 or 2.2. What do we really know about this.
[edited by: indyank at 9:05 am (utc) on Jun 19, 2011]