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Google Updates and SERP Changes - January 2010

     

northweb

1:07 am on Jan 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

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the SERPs were different in the past few days for sure.
changed mid day today.

northweb

2:46 am on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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What are you guys seeing out there? serps in our industry seem to have stopped bouncing around as much.

walkman

4:14 am on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)



They are settled but in my opinion this is not caffeine.

What are you guys seeing out there? serps in our industry seem to have stopped bouncing around as much.

curioustoddler

2:49 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I think this is the right place to post this. I read somewhere that google caffiene results can be seen at 209.85.225.103. Is that true? and Can we expect these results to be shifted to google.com soon. Because my site is new and i can only get some traffic from what i am seeing at this IP.

pdivi

6:39 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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What are you guys seeing out there?

I just saw a competitor's indexed pages (using site: operator) go up by 20x

Kelowna

7:02 pm on Jan 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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The serps I follow appear to be back to what they were before all this dancing around started. Maybe they turned off the coffee pot? ...or this is the calm before the storm.

barretire

5:51 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I am thinking it must be the calm before the storm. Allthough they do seem to be back. They seem to have a lot of sites that should not be there in the serps I am looking at.

whitenight

10:18 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Caffeine DATASET is LIVE. Right now. As I write this, at this moment
on Google.com.

YMMV, I am not a doctor.. I only play one on tv.
Some Side effects include obsession, heart attacks, chronic disbeiief, confusion, nausea

dickbaker

11:05 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Not live for me. On the 209.85.225.103 datacenter I'm #3 for a particular phrase, but #9 for it on Google.com (after clearing cookies and history each time).

gouri

11:09 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I am not seeing Caffeine on Google.com.

Are you still seeing it?

whitenight

11:11 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Keep checking guys, it's still there.

Use anonys, proxys, random IPs, etc til you see them.

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Try a central or western US proxy. Its appears most persistently there

gouri

11:15 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Is there a particular IP address or datacenter?

whitenight

11:17 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Is there a particular IP address?

Don't understand this question.

It's directly on google.com. Not an IP/datacenter.

As far as MY personal IPs? Lol like i said, use a proxy/anon/randomizer that's based out of central or western USA.

barretire

11:22 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I am not seeing it here either...

gouri

11:22 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I am not sure how to use a proxy/anon or randomizer that is based out of the central or western US to search but I'll check on Google.com to see if Caffeine is on there.

barretire

11:30 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Whitenight I am a bit confused as well, Not sure how to use the tools you mentioned. When checking on google.com nothing seems to have changed, everythiung matches what I saw this morning. Same amount of returned results and same positions. Maybe it is not live here on the East Coast.

tedster

11:34 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Using the ShowIP extension to Firefox, I'm seeing the Caffeine data-set being served via this set of IP addresses:

64.233.169.147, 64.233.169.105, 64.233.169.103, 64.233.169.104, 64.233.169.99,64.233.169.106

It seems to take 5 IP addresses to build the complete SERP, where in the past it often took only 3.

whitenight

11:34 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Well, just tripled checked with offices/employees in Texas, Colorado, and Indiana. All 5 "control" keywords/sites showed live Caffeine.

Maybe it is not live here on the East Coast.

Don't think it's live there either.

whitenight

11:45 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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California confirms now too.

lol, feel like i'm giving election results. =P

whitenight

12:02 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Got in now in Mass. barretire.

Give it time to show on your Goog. (make SURE you have everything cleared, cleaned, logged out, etc)
or
call a friend to have them check your controls.

gouri

12:04 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I appreciate the updates that you are giving. If there are more on the East Coast and Southeast, can you please post.

whitenight

12:11 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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can you please post

You'll see it gouri, just keep checking and use different comps.

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It would be interesting if this fully rolled out like I reported the Caffeine INFRASTRUCTURE was rolling out (and then disappearing) back in September.
Meaning - From Google.com to the other datacenters, rather than vice-versa ie from other datacenters to Google.com
(which was a key marker between Big Daddy infrastructure vs. Caffeine)

gouri

2:07 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Those who were seeing Caffeine earlier, are you still seeing it on Google.com?

I have not seen it today so I was wondering?

drl1

3:59 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I have not seen it yet on regular Google, I'm in PA so maybe it hasn't rolled out completely?
Still seeing different results on my normal Google when compared to the results on 209.85.225.103

whitenight

5:03 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Those who were seeing Caffeine earlier, are you still seeing it on Google.com?

Have you tried Tedster's advice?

Go to >>
64.233.169.147, 64.233.169.105, 64.233.169.103, 64.233.169.104, 64.233.169.99,64.233.169.106

pick your "control" keyword/site

See what the address bar says. ;)

It should say "http://www.google.com/search?"... :)

Kelowna

5:24 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I have tried proxies from east and west and do not see anything but the same old same old...

whitenight

5:33 am on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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ah well, guess Gorg is targeting me and mine specifically =P
or
More people will verify by morrow
or it will have disappeared.

Check your logs for anomalous traffic.

gouri

2:31 pm on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Have you tried Tedster's advice?

Go to >>
64.233.169.147, 64.233.169.105, 64.233.169.103, 64.233.169.104, 64.233.169.99,64.233.169.106

pick your "control" keyword/site

See what the address bar says. ;)

It should say "http://www.google.com/search?"... :)

I typed one of the ip addresses as the url, and then looked up some keywords that I watch and the url as you have it appeared looking like this:

[google.com...]

I am hoping that I did this the way you are saying?

I did not see Caffeine results, however.

I will check again later today.

dickbaker

3:25 pm on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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If I just type in the IP, I wind up at one of the default Google IP's for my region. I have to type in [64.233.169.105...] if I want to get results from that particular IP.

Even with using the caffeine IP's, I see little or no difference.

WW_Watcher

4:02 pm on Jan 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Everflux

drl1

2:37 am on Jan 24, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I still see two different SERPs on regular Google and 209.85.225.103 but I just had a blog post cached by Google in 35 minutes - which is a big change or an major coincidence for that particular site.
Seems like Google can gather the data but can't (or won't) update the index at the same speed, and I can think of reasons why they wouldn't want to do that.
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