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the SERPs were different in the past few days for sure.
changed mid day today.
Shouldn't caffeine be out by now, noticeable and stable
Alot of people are under the impression that there should be something to notice. And perhaps there will / would be.
However, Matt Cutts at Pubcon did of course mention that since this is a change under the hood, he didn't expect much change in the way the regular user would see the SERPs.
However, Matt Cutts at Pubcon did of course mention that since this is a change under the hood, he didn't expect much change in the way the regular user would see the SERPs.
Yeah, but if they changed the algo we should feel it. The average user will not care or wonder about if CNN is #1 for news and NBC #2 or viceversa.
Yeah, but if they changed the algo we should feel it....
Before any algo changes, which I anticipate that Caffeine will eventually facilitate, Google first needs to change over to the new infrastructure in as seamless a manner as possible.
They wouldn't have a firm grip on the algo going forward if an infrastructure change by itself resulted in an algo change now.
I agree. It's surprising how little is known by the actual people who make their livings from this information.
The spammy (article) sites have left #1-#3 spots, page 1 and the serps seem to be back to normal as of 8am PST.
That's the only data center that is showing normal results. Everything else is spam filled. (article submission sites/sites with questionable link patterns)
Yeah, but if they changed the algo we should feel it
How do we know this conclusively?
How do we know that there will be results that are different in some way?
How do we know, after this long, that results that people see and claim are 'Caffeine' results are in fact those results.
Even when the original ip was given by Matt as a reference, the rankings there were in flux, as they should be on a dynamic system. It only stands to reason that this would still be the case, and if so, would make it very difficult for anyone to decisively say 'I seen Caffeine on DC x,y or z'
If I search using the regular datacenters, my page comes in at #8.
Now 209.85.225.103 only shows the "slightly different" (presumably Caffeine results) and this set of results has remained fairly consistent for weeks now.
These results they are still different from what I see in regular Google. So from my perspective, I would presume 209.85.225.103 is Caffeinated and still different from what I see in regular Google.