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I see PR changes for my 5-6 sites. Some went down some went up.
Check on these datacentres.
My blog went from 3 to 5 PR. :)
[edited by: tedster at 7:35 pm (utc) on Nov. 1, 2007]
I'm seeing a 5 to a 6 on a site which dropped out of the SERPS in April and cut my income by two thirds. Then a 6 to a 0 on a site which still holds its own. Others pretty much the same.
I think they're twitching but can't believe it actually means anything at all. They always said they were a 'snapshot in time', at some arbitrary point in the past.
Another bit of scaremongering/enigmatic action from the plex, all with a pinch of salt these days...
Ive seen a number of PR changes both up and down on loads of sites. It looks like its now much harder for sites to move higher up the chain.
Like a PR6 is like the old PR7 and a PR7 site now is like an old PR8?
Have to say i thought a number of PR5 and PR6 sites would be promoted yet they stayed still in the sectors i watch and some top draw PR8 sites are now PR7s
What ever the case it looks like the current green bar PR has already been factored into the serps anyway
a month before i started a thread here that my site in google directory reflecting no page rank and in last place. i suspect it as a preview, no it's seems to be the same.
my site is a white hat and site and i done nonthing against google guidelines.
whether the page rank decrease will reflect in SERPS in the coming weeks
The toolbar values generally reflect where your site was two to five weeks ago. It isn't real-time, nor is it new. Whatever effect it had, if any at all, it very likely happened already.
That would explain all the weird things seen for the past few weeks.
However looking at many sites, PR value make absolutely no sense to me. Looks again like half the web feels the downsides of an indexing problem.
For example one of our sites that was proxy hijacked long ago keeps "loosing" pages. Some pages don't appear in GWT, the same pages are getting a grey bar. No black hat whatsoever. Just regular pages with unique content, old page.
I see non sense blogs or sites, with popularity generated with the lowest end link exchange farming and content autogenerated with software getting some PR, it's ridiculous.
I don't know why or how, but I suspect infrastructure problems at Google, huge ones.
Common factors from grey bar pages:
1. previously proxy hijacked or heavily scrapped
2. not updated for quite a while: 6+ months
3. google cache problems: either no cache (no obvious reasons) or cache from August
Could have a little fun with the above factors if this is really what Google intended to do:
Proxy hijacks are Google's problem, not ours, why webmasters should suffer from it?
Why would a well written page be updated like a blog post?
This is all so weird, and Google keeps really quite about those things for some time now......
I personally believe that the increase of low end sites on Google.com (US)for a few weeks has to do with in fact many sites loosing their page values in the index. How, why, WTH is not for me to say.
I can't find any good reason that justifies a grey bar on some pages.
At first I suspected lack of content, but at the same time empty forum posts and the like that now surprisingly rank well get at least a white bar.
Only my thoughts based on observations. Well, in fact it really looks like either another collateral damage from some weird algorithm factor or indexing problems.
Not really sure what to make of that. The German site has few backlinks the main site now has thousands or even tens of thousands..organic to stories etc.
Still this must reflect something otherwise what is the point of having it...or are Google just indulging webmasters?
I mean, ignoring the maths, if PR is meant to represent the authority of a site then the maths that produced this TBPR aint working.
Youtube is THE video content site, one of the most important user generated content sites, one of the biggest entertainment sites... by any measure in any segment it isn't a PR3 site.
They've shot themselves in the foot again.
To me this update proves manipulation of TBPR outside of actual ranking calculations, which suggests it isn't worth relying on.
This year my site has been a 4, then briefly 5 then 4 and now 3, yet it has not budged from the very top of the SERPS for 500-plus keyword combos, some with 80-odd million matches.
I think the lastest TBPR reflects a strategy to downgrade bought links, but the behaviour of the TBPR versus the SERPS suggests this is only for show.