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Google Page Rank Update November 2007

Much awaited update!

     
7:17 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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< part two of this discussion is here: [webmasterworld.com...] >

I see PR changes for my 5-6 sites. Some went down some went up.

Check on these datacentres.

72.14.217.104

72.14.221.99

209.85.135.102

My blog went from 3 to 5 PR. :)

[edited by: tedster at 7:35 pm (utc) on Nov. 1, 2007]

6:30 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Even existing incoming links tend to get devalued as the sites providing the links also slip down the PR scale.

The good news is that the quantity of inbound links and the quality or sources of inbound links are two different things. PR is merely one piece of baggage that a link brings with it.

6:31 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes, your'e right. I shouldn't have used the word 'quality'. Maybe well-SEO'd dross, with a big budget for getting links?

{added] I meant quality as in your earlier post, not the later one my reply crossed with, with which I completely agree.[/added]

[edited by: HarryM at 6:34 pm (utc) on Oct. 27, 2007]

6:37 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Very disappointed with this update, been dropped from a 6 to a 4.
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Was a TBRP 5 a few years ago then TBPR 4 for about 3 years and today down to a 3. (Seems like a bit of a drop off in SERPs too). Our 7 sub-domains dropped from 3's to 2's also.
7:06 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing drops everywhere. I guess 4 is the new 5.
7:11 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As I mentioned in a previous post, there are at least 3 factors to PR drops. Take a CLOSE look at youtube and you will see one of the factors.
7:20 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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See what extreemegolfer? you can't just say that, tell us why it is PR3.
7:32 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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To paraphrase emperor Octavian Augustus

Sergey Brin, give me back my pageranks!

7:41 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Did google.co.uk always show up at 8, or has it just dropped from 9?
8:04 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think Google.co.uk dropped to an 8 at the April update or the one before that.
8:29 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Further evidence the PR update is directly related to Adwords income (just in time for Christmas). From the horse's mouth:

[google.com...]

9:17 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Huh? What "evidence" are we supposed to be looking at on that page?
9:27 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Those who are familiar with Google Adwords, and use the "Advertising Programs" link off the Google homepage, will realize that sales page was only recently added.
9:31 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Things are still changing for some sites, and not all datacentres have the new values installed yet.
9:51 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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To me it also looks as if the 'update' ain't over yet.
I find it strange that when I have a look at my backlinks, all the new sites that have included my links to my site since April, are not shown (yet).

Ingoring these links makes it seem like that all the hard work was useless. Kind of depressing I must say. Well I won't let that happen. New of youtube having PR3 on all dc's chears me up for now.

[edited by: FrankWeb at 9:52 pm (utc) on Oct. 27, 2007]

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There has also been some shuffling and re-grouping of categories apparently. The main keyword for one of my sites routinely returned between 15 and 17 million results in a google search, it's now returning 47 million results. The top 10 are completely different now.
11:03 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"I'm seeing drops everywhere."

The last PR update was months ago. Millions of sites have gone online since then. Established sites should expect to lose PR every update for the rest of eternity as more and more sites come online to take a piece of the pie.

11:09 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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exactly....!
1:42 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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@steveb

You might be right... 2 of my newcomer sites got PR3 from PR0 and one of them got PR5 from PR0, my established site dropped from 4 to 3

[edited by: Flipsider at 1:43 am (utc) on Oct. 28, 2007]

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except for 1 site, all others have taken a 1 point slide - all i can say is there all in the industrial sector.
2:00 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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steveb hard to disagree with you but in this case i dont think so. New sites still have to build up a long term link base and I have seem several old sites gain in this update.

One thing I do notice, is sites with paid links caught up in the last PR drop a week ago (All those big name sites) because of supposed "Paid Links" are really getting hit hard, so not only the sellers but buyers from those sites are getting dropped.

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After two years at a solid 4 we dropped to 3. Not what we were hoping for, but at least it's not a grey bar.
3:21 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I usually don't care much about the Google Toolbar PR updates but this time seems different, rather unpredictable. I'm seeing a lot of minus 1 PR changes and some grey bar on inner pages. Harsh.
3:51 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Periodically, there's an across-the-board drop in PR for sites (like 6 to 5, 5 to 4, etc.) as the number of pages on the internet increases.

A *big* drop for an individual site is a different matter - like going from PR7 to PR4. But down one rounded-off TBPR number is no matter of concern. It's normal.

3:55 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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extremegolfer> What are you talking about? Stop being cryptic and spit out what your theory is, if you have one.

All I have to say is, Youtube has a PR of 3 which, as my first post said, means this update is beyond wonky or incomplete.

4:09 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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i'm excited... i added the no follow and am climbing again...i had a drop to zero, now climbing - back at 2 rt now....
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Stop being cryptic and spit out what your theory is

I wouldn't concerned myself too much with tin foil hatters.. I've never seen big conspiracy theories provide practical advices.

4:30 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I agree with Decius, the update is not complete yet, a prediction PR tool predicted that www.youtube.com has PR of 8.1 and youtube.com has a PR of 7.3.

Yahoo shows 13,365,822 back links for YouTube while Google shows nothing for both www.youtube.com and youtube.com!

The update is ain't over yet.

5:23 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Finally in the morning when I woke up.. I saw my site got PR 5 and all other pages got PR 3.. I am very happy with this update...

Thanks Google!

6:11 am on Oct 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Even the NYT has taken a hit. It used to be 10; then went to 9; the latest update drops it to 8! The Paper of Record has lost its authority!? How can this be?

Dazed and confused,

:/

p/g

P.S. PR must factor into account public opinion polls on reporters. Not a bad idea, frankly.

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