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Hi, I am not sure IF this is relevant or not.. but here goes... I have suffered with a website dropping like a stone in Google.. and this happened on August 25th/26th. At the SAME time my website error Log seemed to crash and 100 core files got generated. I deletede these files... and have checked my current error log and I am getting about 100 error message an hour... and Google is picking up on these errors as shown in my site index... I have the IP addresses and can block them but they are from numerous sources... and they try to find an impossible url... any suggestions?
Could there be more to these changes in Google serps than meets the eye?
[edited by: tedster at 4:44 am (utc) on Sep. 1, 2007]
Also, the site: command reports different numbers of pages every time I invoke it - anywhere from 300 to 520 (the correct number is probably somewhere in the middle) and it just bounces back and forth. I don't think my pages are bouncing, so I think it's the site command.
It is a fluid situation.
I am in the top for a week or 2 or 3 then I disappear then I go back into obscurity like a yo-yo.
This produces wild gyrations in traffic and revenue and I am at a loss to explain it. This is not a google dance, I reckon; the results seem to change each time they spider my site which is often.
BTW - 100% white hat, back links from good neighborhoods; crusty old site ( 7+ yrs)
To me fellow webmasters, all I can say is hold fast. The only thing that is guaranteed is that serps will fluctuate.
Rankpulse shows more movement than at any time since May, and this is the time of year that major updates have happened before (e.g. Jagger in 2005).
The lack of movement since Google started asking for paid link reports suprised me. Perhaps we will see some movement now.
I've only had one set of 6 pages appear in the SERPS over the past couple of months (until today) and the lead page hit No 1 for the keyword but also was immediately assigned a PR of 3.
Probably no connection, but after several months of pages very slowly going into supplemental I suddenly see today a 3% decrease in supplemental. Not much but it bucks the trend of the last 3 months (supplemental = "site:example.com" minus "site:example.com/*").
Any thoughts about what is happening?
[edited by: tedster at 6:26 pm (utc) on Sep. 10, 2007]
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I tried :
all four with completely different results
the best results for me are by far: *my keywords*
2nd best is: my keywords*
without asterisks I am penalized with the minus something phenomena.
What does it mean?
If you've been buying a lot of links from those directories it could have resulted in a drop in rank due to those links no longer being factored into your rank (remember that Google sees immediate results re links but doesn't report them only every 3-4 months),.
It could be that Google implemented a lot of different tweaks to the algorithim all at once just so the changes are harder to detect.
We did some digging and found that the site had become a victim of a proxy hijack. We quickly implemented the fixes listed in webmasterworld, and come this morning... the site is back in action, home page indexed, and the rankings have returned.
The proxy site with the client's home page has disappeared.
As far as we can tell, all rankings have returned (give or take a position).
I don't completely understand how the proxy hijack would happen. I always figured that when google finds duplicate content, the site which has a higher PR and/or had had the page indexed first, would receive the higher placement, and not become filtered/de-indexed.
The proxy site in question has far lower PR than the client's site.
Anyone suspect that maybe there was an overall flummox at Google in the past week?
Why "www" & "no-www" Are Different - the canonical root issue
Domain Root vs. index.html - another kind of duplicate
That should get you started.
Back to Watching
These are the worst serps that I've ever seen. All I see is craigs list ads and the multi-million dollar mfgrs of my KW aren't to be found. This is SAD..
Search on "firearm" (*ted using this as an example not my KW ) and look at the book.google.com returns. I think that if I wanted a "book on firearms", I would have typed that in.
Buy Yahoo Stock... Price is cheap and I think for search, they may now be the best.
Same here. For some reason I got kicked to the end of the results again. Thursday-Friday was bad and then I came back Saturday-Sunday up until late in the evening Sunday and now it's back to oblivion.
I did a search yesterday for "boxer in Kentucky" and to me a boxer is a dog, but not to Google. A boxer to Google is the fighting kind and has almost nothing to do with a dog. Seems like they are trying to do something semantic. Could be interesting to do some more research there since there were a few other sites than boxing sites to see why these other sites happened to show up.
URL timeout: DNS lookup timeout
in the webmaster console and it's possible this is just a Google error. Susan Moskwa is checking into it.
I see it for one of my sites, which coincidentally, lost rankings at the same time.
So far - I'm not sure that anything can be ruled out....
I have chased theories for the last 4 days and this is just as good as anything else that would provide some guidance.
Please keep us posted.
[edited by: Arctrust at 3:40 pm (utc) on Sep. 11, 2007]
[edited by: tedster at 5:34 am (utc) on Sep. 13, 2007]
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Keeping my fingers crossed that it won't go the other way... even deeper into the mud.