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Is this a big google update going on?

watching the data centers

         

eskipii

8:14 pm on Dec 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i'm seeing a big change in some data centers, looks awesome. this is one fine christmas gift.

taps

5:10 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In my case I'm pretty sure that my site had suffered from a dupe content penalty. I made a mistake in my robots.txt last summer that allowed Google to crawl dupe pages (print and mail versions).

During that penalty my site's homepage never showed up first for site:www.mysite.xy. Now I see my site rushing back and the homepage is appearing first.

I think the penalty was site wide since my homepage was not duplicate.

spainly

5:16 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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taps,

i think i also triggered the dupe content flag :(

do you have now a lot of only url results on site:domain.com? i have several sections 100% only-ulr and i am going to ban it for crawlers

i wish you all a 2006 free of dupe contents :)

taps

5:28 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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spainly: no url only results.

A penalty free 2006 to everyone - I suffered twice from dupe content penalty this year. That should be enough...

macdave

5:38 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo, the good site: results are on my current google.com (64.233.161.104) as well as on the test DC. Haven't checked any DCs beyond those two, but the volume of traffic coming in would suggest that the change affecting our site is widespread.

BTW, the last time I checked the test DC before Chritmas, the site: results were still scrambled, as with other DCs. Now they're substantially the same, although the test DC reports a 50% smaller number of pages from our site indexed.

Pico_Train

5:56 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Everybody,

There are several camps on updates. Most recently it seems to have been the duplicate content and the canonical (Fire!) issues with Jagger with a passing mention on links.

I think I was just hit by both, canonical and duplicate, pretty much at the same time.

A 301 is not a problem, I can do it and since it is a technical problem, Google will sort it out eventually.

The other problem is duplicate content. This is a very serious issue for content writers. We all spend hours reading our work over and over again, only for some thief to come along, highlight it, press ctrl + c and then ctrl + v in their HTMl editor.

Content theft has reached ridiculous proportions and honest writers are being nailed left, right and center on this.

I am constantly fighting fires with sites stealing my stuff and I am starting to have it up to here with it! I've duelled with people in Hong Kong, Canada, Germany and now, just quickly, I have found another 3.

Once back from holidays, I will write a nice long how to etc etc... about content theft, finding it, steps to take and all that jazz to fight this plague.

We all need to start enforcing our ownership of our content. It's the only way because Google, as much as they say they are working on it, i think it is far too "untechnical" a problem for a computer to figure out. Copyright laws - whatever - kind of like a law against J-walking, it's rarely enforced and people laugh when it is.

Anyway, I'm upset, tired of theft and want to do something about it so that other sites don't go from page 1 to page 10 because of thieves.

Later!

BillyS

6:15 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site dropped before Jagger really rolled out. That was some time in late September. I remember reading something MC said about the adjustment before Jagger hit - he said something like "that adjustment was targeting something else." I took that to mean penalizing sites.

I almost give up when in comes to Google. My site's so clean it squeaks. What I came to realize is that Search Engines are really pretty stupid. I gave them too much credit for being able to figure out things. They can't and really need to be spoon fed information.

The ironic part here is the more they do to combat spam, the deeper the hole they dig themselves.

steveb

9:18 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see some of the remaining problems from September 22 being fixed, although a few pages still hold out in having a problem. Perhaps they too will recover in a day or two.

Some progress made... <gasp>

ulysee

10:17 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hmm my site dropped 300+ places on (64.233.161.104), wonder what's cooking there?.

grelmar

10:32 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My 2 bits:

Looks like the typical post update re-adjustment. 2 of my sites that were wiped out by Jagger (for mysterious reasons I couldn't really track down), are back to roughly where they were before Jagger.

I saw similar behaviour the previous two years. Big mongo update in November. Mass panic and confusion. Then December/January, things started to settle back down, and a lot of "penalized" sites re-appeared.

I just wish they'd move the big update to January, after the Christmas sales rush, so that the minor flaws that seem to creep up with every major update wouldn't have such a detrimental affect on e-tailers.

europeforvisitors

11:45 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)



I just wish they'd move the big update to January, after the Christmas sales rush, so that the minor flaws that seem to creep up with every major update wouldn't have such a detrimental affect on e-tailers.

Possibly, but in some sectors (such as mine), traffic and commercial activity are much greater after the first of the year than during the Christmas season, so one man's meat is another man's poison. Also, if search traffic in general is lower in December than it is in January (a reasonable assumption), it may make sense for Google to do its housekeeping during the eggnog-and-office-party season.

(For what it's worth, I lost 70-90% of my Google referrals between late March and late May of 2005, which was probably the worst time of year to have that happen. If Google whacks me again, I hope it's in November and December!)

moishe

2:06 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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seems toolbar PR is bouncing a bit on this DC and a couple others. my PR5 site shows as a 4 on:
66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104
216.239.53.104

It was a 4 until the last PR update so maybe some back n forth type stuff going on?

Phil_AM

2:14 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Wow, these two dc's have completely dropped my site:

66.102.9.99
66.102.11.99

However, I'm not that concerned.

These two have moved my site to #2 position.

64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104

Yet, I'm not that happy.

And all the others have me at either 5 or 28 on my main keyword (which is my barometer for these updates).

This is following an eerily similar patter to Jagger 1 for me. Obviously these results didn't stick for J1, but there is some sort of similar pattern.

My guess is this is the beginning of another set of updates. Check back in two weeks after the dust settles...

HieroHero

4:09 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think they are still updating the Test DC .. results seem to be changing the last couple of days..

coosblues

7:25 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The set of results that I see for my site are live. I'm now back to pre-Jagger which is a very good thing, and again, speaking only for my site all the Dc's are identical. I made one major change right as this "update" began, and it seemed to be the right one. My traffic dropped nearly 2/3rd's after Jagger, but just today traffic is back to normal, so it would appear to me I'm not the only one seeing new results. It is an update in my non-commercial sector, but as we all know it could change when I check again tomorrow.

photonstudios

8:08 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My main site has been hit hard :\ Was getting 1500-2000 visitors for a month and now I'm down to about 100-200. Used to rank top 10 for almost all my keywords and now my site can only be found around 200's. Its an affiliate site with a bunch of product pages so I guess thats why it got hit.
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