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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

arnarn

10:52 pm on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a real sick feeling that Jagger X, be it 1,2,or a fully flux'd 3, is just not ready for prime time!

Starting with J1, we started to see problems with multiple key words. Before J1, multiple key word phrases could easily target a brand name for a product. Now, it's bizarre: A multi word brand name search with the word "supreme" results have the #1 result being some case in the Supreme Court. HUH? I just don't see how that can happen unless the word supreme automatically maps everything to supreme court and cases there-in.

Also, it's a "kiss of death" under Jx to have a product name with a region or city attached.. e.g. anything with the word Phoenix (meaning the bird or rising from the ashes concept). Everything under the sun in Phoenix will be shown before your product.

Maybe some filters or algo components are turned off now, but other than that, something is amuk with Google.. maybe we should call this update the "Lost Mojo"

Look forward to hearing if others are see the same with Jx and its impact on product / brand names.

PS.. was Jagger supposed to implement new semantic filters? I thought it was mostly a DB clean up, spam buster release.

[edited by: arnarn at 11:05 pm (utc) on Nov. 14, 2005]

steveb

10:56 pm on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Fresh dates don't seem to correlate (except coincidentally) to the date displayed if you click the cached link.

g1smd

11:00 pm on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Don't forget that the fresh date is in a US time zone, but the cache date is using UTC... so anything labelled as being before 08:00 UTC in the cache will show a fresh date as being the day before....

23:59 Friday (US) is 07:59 Saturday (UTC)

00:01 Saturday (US) is 08:01 Saturday (UTC)

TammyJo

11:17 pm on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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More like:

Nov.13 cached date Nov. 7

Ankhenaton

11:26 pm on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)



Even funnier is that Googles update has ranked the German Wikipediaklons lower and the German Wikipedia is collapsing all the time..

The algorithm bites back ... :D

I seriously wonder when wikipedia has reached critical mass and collapes in itself...

Meanwhile .. if you type definition:bla into Google you get answers.coms Wikiclon ... always on the first position.

Hmmm logic?

Ankhenaton

11:50 pm on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)



Keyword overloading doesn't seem to be dead. I found on a search [single keyword Gardening subject area] a site on page 1 that wasn't spam itself, but he has 100 terms in meta keywords and hidden about 300 keywords in a span. :\

theBear

12:02 am on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Darn it Ankhenaton, no one was to find that page.

I like some of the other serps, the ones where they show because there is one and only one link to them that happens to be one of the keywords searched for.

Do it "kw1 kw2" and none of the sites on the first page are same as when the "s aren't there.

I always loved those ones especialy if the cache copy was of a 404 page and the current #1 no longer returned a response.

tiori

12:49 am on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Looking good!

arnarn

12:59 am on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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succulent, too!

... speaking of which, and in follow-up to earlier comments re paired keywords..

checkout G's results for
bullwinkle supreme

See how many supreme court cases involve bullwinkle!

WHere's rocky and justice, or is this some commie plot?

Boris, Natasha, please stand up!

donelson

1:11 am on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=6m&size=large&compare_sites=&y=r&url=www.yahoo.com

[alexa.com...]

search.yahoo.com - 7%
wots your point?

No, no no. LOOK at the graphs. See how they dip at the same time as the Jagger rollouts...
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