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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

webdude

2:20 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK

I am seeing the same with site: order is different today.

[edited by: webdude at 2:20 pm (utc) on Nov. 15, 2005]

Mountdoom

2:20 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Likewise, trying a few tweaks here and there. Reducing similarity score for certain pages, removing strap line in title, more content, reduced keyword density. Haven't seen any miracles, but it beats waiting for Google and at the end of the day makes for a better site (which is what it's all about isn't it?). Yahoo and MSN are yet to pick up on the updates, so I don't know yet the result here. What fun!

I seriously think Google haven't rolled with J3 yet because they're not happy with the result - especially with keyword + town phrases (as Arnarn mentioned msg 714). I'm seeing our results all over the place - some keywords are top 5, others are nowhere. Home page appeared and then disappeared. I would expect results at least to be generally consistent (whether good, bad or average, but consistent!). Flux! some might shout, but my hunch is they're still tweaking.

Dayo_UK

2:22 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)



>>>>I am seeing the same with site: order is different today.

And wrong? That site ordering gave me some comfort that Google could work out the homepage of a site. Now it just shows how far away they obviously have been for my site.

J3 is supposed to be the new Base Index according to GG - so it is important they get it right I guess.

Eazygoin

3:03 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My PR indicator on Google toolbar is jumping all over the place, for the same page, when i refresh. Maybe a Toolbar PR update is imminent!

donelson

3:18 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My ClickThruRate has gone way down on all four of our websties, comparing mid-Sept to mid-Oct, with mid-Oct to mid-Nov. This is not the number of click-thrus, but the percentage CTR that's gone down.

Are Google pushing poorer ads now? Or is it just me? Something to do with the Jagger updates?

Anyone else notice a drop in CTR?

King of all Sales

3:37 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Donelson -

We have an Adwords account with thousands of keywords spread accross 9 campaigns. Our CTR this month is slightly higher than last month but the interesting thing is that the number of impressions (for those not familiar with Adwords, the total number of page views for those keywords) is flat compared to last month. Impressions on Overture are up this month over last as would be expected in our segment for this time of the year.

driwashsolutions

3:39 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For pubcon to end, maybe? ;)

or for it to begin. The keynote speaker gives his address at 9:00am PST - that's in roughly 2 hours, 20 minutes from now...

Wonder if we'll see any movement in the DC's then!

dfre

3:39 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>>I am seeing the same with site: order is different today.
And wrong? That site ordering gave me some comfort that Google could work out the homepage of a site. Now it just shows how far away they obviously have been for my site.

How can the order of site: results tell you anything?

Didn't GG say this was more or less random and not to read anything into the order of those results?

Dayo_UK

3:44 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)



dfre

Hmmmz - yes that was a bit strange. MC said they were random and then afterwards GG said that "Although it's fair feedback to ask us to sort site: by something more useful than random.."

Anyway - it was clear (and still is for some sites) that there is an ordering process (to some degree) on the Jagger3 dcs when doing a site:domain.com search.

dfre

3:51 pm on Nov 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyway - it was clear (and still is for some sites) that there is an ordering process (to some degree) on the Jagger3 dcs when doing a site:domain.com search.

Yea..I recall it was ordered correctly for my site at some point during Jagger on some servers. I just took that to mean, that yes google knows the order of importance or structure, but they aren't displaying it because it may give more information to seo than google would like. (similar to what they do with link: to make it somewhat useless)

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