Update Saga. Part 5

[Brett_Tabke]

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

[keno]

I think Brad Stevens has a healthy perspective as to what is going on here.

He has actually suggested a "tool" to work with. I'm a newb and this big long thread does nothing for me. I don't have the time for it...just popped in because it floated to the top again. (I haven't read it either).

I guess this thread helps somebody somehow. Thanks Brad Stevens for offering something constructive.

[OnTopic]

Sorry, I've only read half of this thread. Has anyone remarked that Google seems to be interpreting the search arguments? I used to do very well for searches like: "translator swahili norwegian", even without the quotes. Google now bolds not only translator but also translation and translating etc. Google bolds any occurence of the search words in the results, but not when they are in a filename and start with a capital letter. Translator-Swahili-Norwegian.html is not bolded at all, while translatorswahilinorwegian.html is.

I'm at a loss,
Gerard

[BradStevens]

>>>As far as copying source codes goes, what do you expect to find there? That the vast majority of sites have not made any changes during the update? And of the ones that did, do you think that your analysis will amount to anything more than a guess anyway?<<<

You are completely missing the boat here! I'd be looking for sites that DID NOT make any changes to thier source code during Jagger.

It is those sites that I will compare their pre-jagger rankings and their post-pagger rankings. Then, for those sites that have gained rankings, I will compare source code to see commonality as to why they may have increased rankings. I will do the same for those sites that have decreased in rankings.

As well, I keep a spreadsheet of other factors regarding my competitors (backlinks, etc.). That information will obviously also enter into my analysis.

Indeed, I will be able to use hard copy *FACTS* to begin to determine why rankings have changed ... not just guesses.

You guys are completely guessing without using FACTS. Your just guessing why rankings have changed. And, I have yet to hear one person provide highly salient information ... other than information that any decent webmaster already knows anyway.

I'm sorry for being such an @ss here ... really, I am. But, gees, you guys amaze me! You guys do not seem to apply logic to the problem at hand. You don't seem to have any basis of understanding from which to apply an analysis matrix.

And, to those who are already trying to alter their sites to gain rankings, well, I really do not know what to say except that is the most stupid thing a webmaster could do at this juncture.

Wait till it happens folks. Then, apply logic to find commonalities. That gives you answers. Then adjust your sites and wait and see what happens.

Patience is truly a virture when it comes to being a decent webmaster!

[helleborine]

On 66.102.9.104, results were a little better a few days ago. Whatever Google tweaked in the past 48 hours seems to favor some aged sites that are losing "real" popularity, and partially restores them to their former, pre-Jagger glory.

Nonetheless, in my corner of the woods, J3 does reflect fairly accurately the actual rise and fall in popularity of the websites I watch.

Some high-quality, newer sites continue to be stuck in an officially non-existent sandbox.

[Ankhenaton]

http://66.102.9.104 is the worst thing Ive seen in a long time. So much spam, I just can not belive it.

The mega spammer is now away on search for a biological cell component over me and moved with another word meaning "count [as in nobility] of the Reich" to one below me ...

Cloaking seems to be the technique of choice as neither the keyword nor the apparent content [one adsense block and an anim gif imitating a header and about 20 links to himelf imitating a menu] have ANYTHING to do with a cell ... :\ ..

Maybe jagger concentrated too much on pure commercial spam and educational sites ... get hit and spam there escapes ..

It's also in another language than english ... :\

I really wonder if this "spam update" is valid in all languages.

[steveb]

"You guys post your ditties exclaiming you have it figured out"

What thread are you reading. Posting such silliness helps no one.

On the other hand, *THE SOURCE CODE*... my goodness, if that is your level of understanding then the other silliness may be your finest hour.

[minnapple]

BradStevens

I really admire your enthusiasm.
You have good intentions, but you have very long way to go in terms of understanding serps.
Your methods could help you understand msn but are not going to give you a clear understanding of google or yahoo.
However it will be a good learning experience.

Trying a new/old civil approach that we use to use : )

[theBear]

Someone please introduce Brad to link text and links.

[BradStevens]

Yes, link text and links. Links, links, links.

Type in miserable failure and see what you get. Yeah ... big deal.

There's more to the picture than just links. That is why I keep the (already aformentioned) spreadsheet of information that contains that and more.

Good grief ... do you people even read the posts here?

You people have absolutely nothing recorded pre-jagger, do you? You have absolutely nothing to compare post jagger to other than your former rankings.

How absolutely sad.

[texasville]

Say Brad...I don't post much here in jagger but I do skim it daily. I just have a question. Two really.
First: you seem to be bragging that you whipped out two websites last week in a tone that sems to lead one to think you have many, many websites. So why do you need anybody elses sites to collect data from? Are all your sites unaffected? Provide no data? What kind of sites are these?
Second:I have serious doubts about newcomers arriving and flaming everyone and trying to start arguments and pretty much disrupting a thread. Are you perchance just trying to get the thread locked? What is your purpose?