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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

zeus

1:01 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I remember when I got hit on google it was nov.3 2004 I had no clue what happend, the site just droped every where on google, I had never had any troubles with ANY update the site was place rock hard on google, so what was the trouble.

I then saw in a site:domain.com search that other domain suddenly was there and had a cache of my frontpage, that was 302 links, meta refreash 0sec and some real hijackers. one of the 302 links even had a dissallow for google to spider.

So now Im 100% sure the site is filtered because of dublicated content and still is because of all those old caches around and maybe scrapers that copy a to large part of the site.

Kangol

1:07 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Results can't stay like this. On 9 there is just too much junk for an competitive term I am watching. In the first 10 I see 5 scrapers and a totally unrelated site.
I think that they made some kind of mistake with the last one.

helleborine

1:29 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We can all see sites built on pure manipulated links still flourishing

This update is all about 100% non-reciprocal links

Conclusion: In order to beat the undeserving sites that are flourishing on pure manipulated links, I must create webpages on freehosts that feature non-reciprocal links to my network of sites. In other words, I must crate pure manipulated links. Fight fire with fire.

JuniorOptimizer

1:31 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why is cheating always the conclusion to battle cheating?

helleborine

1:40 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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JuniorOptimizer... it's not cheating. The pages/sites I create on freehosts do have original content that I spend quite a bit of time on.

If it weren't for the need for non-reciprocal links, I wouldn't choose to display the content on freehosts. But since non-reciprocal links are important, I do.

webdude

1:59 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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A week ago, I reported some wierd things happening on "9" just before the j3 landed there. My terms were returning just 2 - to 10 results with the rest being supplimental. This fluxed for about an hour, then morphed into j3 on that DC.

I just did a search on Google -ping 72.14.207.99 which it defaulted to - and am now seeing the exact same type of behavior. Getting 2 to 12 results and the this keeps changing with each refresh. Somtimes 2 results, sometimes 12. The rest of the 3,130,000 pages are listed as supplimental. Could things be on the move again? It is very strange behavior that I have had a few of you guys check out in the past. Looks to be things are moving again, at least for what I keep taps on...


Results 1 - 12 of about 3,130,000....

In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 12 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.

webdude

2:13 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, the DC is actually 64.233.187.99. You got 15 minutes to sticky me to see what I am talking about. I think things are on a roll again.

Yippee

2:17 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> How can any true analysis be completed without a baselne of information? And, that baseline of information needs to contain more than just your sites. It needs to contain information about what's happening at the top ... ALL of it. That gets you the big picture ... not just a microcasm of our small little worlds. <<

Whatever happened to ole BradStevens? This guy seems to be a day late and a dollar short... Where was this wiz kid on 9/22? He had hope for saving the world from G's death gripping hands.

Gosh, and here I thought all the analysis that took place in here since then amongst the smartest webmasters in the world actually meant something. I should have listened to Brad and not "YOU PEOPLE". Come back Brad, Brad, come back... I will never let go man, I promise.

LunaC

2:22 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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zeus, exactly what happened to my site and the exact same month! It all started falling apart for me in Nov. 2004.

So far I've tried 301ing anything onsite that could be seen as duplicate (www. -> non www., /index.php -> / .. switch to absolute urls etc) and thought that on some datacenters Jagger 3 had helped a bit. Then it just seemed to pause after a few pages finally getting out of supplemental (not ranking for even the most obscure terms though). Still my main page is url only (and with www's despite a 301 in place to non www)

Finally yesterday I tried G. sitemaps, (too early to tell if it will make any difference at all) in the hopes it might give me a glimpse of what it's crawling / indexing problems might be. As well as attempting to block any scrappers I've seen in my logs.

Has anyone succesfully got out of this problem? What do you feel worked, or any advice at all.

Eazygoin

2:26 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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webdude>>

Kinda spooky! One of my more obscure keyword phrases is indexed at position 63 on most DC's, but on the one you quote, it's at 23!

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