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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

minnapple

2:33 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Brad,

You are right, data it is very important and each source of data is important in itself.

There are many types of data that needs to be analyzed, i.e. on page and off page. Each interacts.

I believe Googleguy has termed these as "signals".
How many signals are out there are unknown to those that are not insiders.

Even the engineers learn from our observations. The sandbox is one gold example.

Hope you post some good data to when you are done.

[edited by: minnapple at 2:38 am (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]

BradStevens

2:37 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm sorry for being a butt ... I really am. But, gee, I'm just frustrated with reading posts from users spouting absolute hyperbole over and over enough that all of a sudden it becomes fact with other people who then buy into the crap.

That is ... until the next set of hyperbole gets rolling ... then it's off hopping down another road of theory.

Shoot, I've even read posts from one user who continually trys to tell us what Matt Cutts *really* means when he makes a post. I keep wondering if the guy is wearing a turbin and pearing in a glass ball! <chuckle> The guy's hyperbole has been proven wrong countless times, but yet he keeps posting enough that people start buying into the crap again. Good grief!

How can any true analysis be completed without a baselne of information? And, that baseline of information needs to contain more than just your sites. It needs to contain information about what's happening at the top ... ALL of it. That gets you the big picture ... not just a microcasm of our small little worlds.

minnapple

2:46 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Brad,

After a while, you learn to skim quickly through reams of waste paper to find something that either warrants further investigation or lends some credibility to what you assume.

Sadly, if you looking for anything else in any large forum today, either public or by paid membership, you will be dissappointed.

Real information is shared in the "private clubs".
To be clear, I am not talking about some other group within WebmasterWorld.

Great_Scott

2:53 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<quote> I'm sorry for being a butt ... I really am. But, gee, I'm just frustrated with reading posts from users spouting absolute hyperbole over and over enough that all of a sudden it becomes fact with other people who then buy into the crap.</quote>

BradStevens,

Cool down man. You have made some very interesting posts. So too have the crap writers. We can learn from each other. I just learned from you that links is not everything and learned things from the crap writers too. Put them together and what have you got? (a tanked site haha)

Any port in a storm. Ever heard the saying?

Updates such as this causes hysteria, uncontrollable emotion, and in some cases, the symptoms can be much worse.

LegalAlien

2:56 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<<< As for now, it no longer holds any new news. But, of course, you guys need something to write about, so you might as well bring up old news to rehash again since you have rehashed everything else 50 times. >>>

LOL. A bit strong Brad, even if it is close to the truth. That's not everyone in here though, so you deserve what you got!

It's been really slow-going over the past few days, so I guess thanks are in order -- for livening things up, that is :))

theBear

3:02 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yup Brad none of us have any data, we is all newbies and green horns and have never had a single first place in the serps for other than our site name.

But there is far more than the source code. Just wanted you to know that.

Say do you remember the serial wedge and trumpet?

Great_Scott

3:03 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<quote> You are completely missing the boat here! I'd be looking for sites that DID NOT make any changes to thier source code during Jagger.</quote>

Hmmmmmm,

Anybody have any suggestions how I can keep my source code hidden from Brad and the belligerent minnapple?

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[edited by: Great_Scott at 3:11 am (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]

minnapple

3:04 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sorry Mods but I tried to turn it civil but you will have some work to do when you get back. Clean up

[edited by: minnapple at 3:12 am (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]

Powdork

3:07 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You have absolutely nothing to compare post jagger to other than your former rankings.
What else would we need?

As well, I keep a spreadsheet of other factors regarding my competitors (backlinks, etc.).
Where do you get this data?

Have your studies led you to believe that calling people stupid will improve your rankings?

theBear

3:10 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why Great_Scott you could just not have a site, that would do it ;-)
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