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Update Saga. Part 5

         

Brett_Tabke

8:26 pm on Nov 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

StriderUK

11:49 am on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Interesting, my site also doesn't list its homepage at the top for site:domain.com searches and, like Dayo, we have been hit bady by this update.

Is there anyone else out there who sees this too? Perhaps we can find a common link between all those whose serps have dropped.

Dayo_UK

12:07 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



>>>Googleguy isn't daft!

No and neither are we.

We can tell something is not right.

Google has not treated my homepage and other sites I have looked at homepages as the root for ages.

Not 100% sure what it is due to - eg Canonical, Supplementals, 302 hijacks etc.

I have always suspected Canonical as GG (when he was able to talk more freely) has said that confusion in this area could cause that problem.

zeus

12:23 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK - I still think you have had a case of other sites made a 302 link to you which google then thought was another copy of your site and those 302s are still cached in the google index then you get filtered for dublication, also notice that you still see caches from 2004 so 302 from that time is still in there index.

zikos

12:25 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



Dayo_UK
Canonical is the biggest problem of G i recon.And the problem started 2 years ago(Hmm.. by the same time adsense started and scrapers MFA start spreading like cancer)

Dayo_UK

12:32 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



zeus

Not sure - it is obv. hard to know for exact why sites go like this.

On a related(ish) note - did you see this round up of Matts Coffee talk:-

[seroundtable.com...]

(OK mods - this link was posted in the officail Las Vegas thread and has survived so allowed?)

Anyway - the most intresting point regarding the supplemental/301/302 etc question was that Matt said they are testing on a datacentre - hmmmz wonder if it was the [64.233.179.99...] results we saw for a little while a week or so ago.

zikos

I think it has been a problem longer - the scrapers, malicious 302 linkers etc have made it more pronounced.

zeus

12:40 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think they did test something related to supplemental results for a short while on [64.233.179.99...]

Ankhenaton

12:43 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



I'm gonna miss this thread, once it's all over ... :D
edited so no one tries anything nasty ... ;)

[edited by: Ankhenaton at 1:00 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]

zikos

12:47 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



Akhenaton what is a WP page?

Ankhenaton

12:53 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



I think it has been a problem longer - the scrapers, malicious 302 linkers etc have made it more pronounced.

A non technical friend of mine did in the past all his redirects via meta refresh, no intent of doing anything harmful, black hat etc , just that was what he knew. I think G's main hurdle will always be to seperate the truly ignorant from the malicious. :\

G's task is truly near impossible imo .. How do you seperate human intent with an algorithm? Maybe bayesian might be a partial answer, but ultimately the fairest solution should be, if you know what you do with a webserver and HTML you should be high in the ranking. Then effort and knowledge would equal success.

Ankhenaton

12:55 pm on Nov 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



Akhenaton what is a WP page?

You'll find out if it comes to a SERP near you ... :D

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