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Update Jagger - Part 2

         

Brett_Tabke

1:08 am on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MHes

10:44 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You may see spam, but this may not mean that is what is giving the site high rankings.

Also check, with an open mind, on relevance. I think spam is often IGNORED by the spider and other legit factors are putting the sites high up. Google wants spam reports to see what spammers are up to. They then tweak the algo to ignore these tricks. That way, innocent company owners can still have their site ranking well based on quality of actual content etc., rather than being stuffed by a rogue webmaster. It would be good for the user and fair all round if google accepted that many sites are still good quality, despite having spam techniques written in by over enthusiastic design companies. The policy is therefore, ignore the spam and rank on legitimate factors only.... which is a much fairer system. If you try and make penalties for certain techniques, the collateral damage is too great.

Think about it, a competitor's site may be taking £millions from you....if I was sneaky, I could get a tame or planted employee to put spam on their site and get them banned. If Google just ignores spam, this sabotage would not work.

CrackSeo

10:45 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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spaceylacie i hope your prediction works. But looks like 64.233.189.104 has latest results. No. of results are more in this data center than other DC's.

Dayo_UK

10:45 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



istar

The forum is not for outing sites though.

So yes say what you are seeing - but dont point to examples.

istar

10:54 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



MHes ,I have noticed that you always defend spam ,why?
If I want to put down my competitor using Google's bugs there are many ways one of the best is here <snip>

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:56 pm (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

spaceylacie

10:57 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99
64.233.189.104 - No, these aren't the lastest. These are showing sites that link to content sites above the actual content sites.

64.233.161.104
66.102.11.99 - These are. Newly indexed sites are appearing here. Content sites above the sites that link to them. And different results from pre-Jagger, Jagger 1 and Jagger 2.

No tarot cards, no crystal ball,

taps

10:58 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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guys, please don't post long URLs - I do not want to scroll horizontally to read this thread.

afaik external links are not within the TOS anyway.

istar

10:59 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



OK guys i won't post any more URLS ,as abought Jagger3 we should expect it late friday night ,the rest is for magicians fortune tellers mediums.

GoogleGuy

11:03 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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istar and followgreg, we're working our way through the spam feedback. Since it's possible to see the specifics you're talking about, I'll go ahead and pass those on myself for taking action. :)

AlexK

11:06 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I call that encouraging offending the TOS, GG. Tut tut (rushes out to find some spam to report here).

dudibob

11:10 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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lol, yey! so GG is Jagger 3 meant to filter out the spam? or does Google just ignore it and all the spammers are there for having great websites :s lol
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