Update Jagger - Part 2

[Brett_Tabke]

Continued from
[webmasterworld.com...]

[Eazygoin]

The reality is that SERP's move all the time.

I just checked MSN, and my main keyword was at number 3 for world and UK search yesterday morning. In the afternoon, it had disappeared for world, and was at 15 for UK. This morning its back at 3 for both world and UK.
The same goes for Google. The results move constantly, and depend on the IP address being used.
BUT, the most important thing is that we are looking at a final result that will at best be available for 3 months, until the next update. Then all the speculation starts afresh!
At the end of the day, its your statistics you want to see moving in the right direction!

[istar]

anyway Google fight against spam have completely failed ,they removed some obvious ones but manually and after reports of Jagger 1 ,2 ech.That means
1)by automated algo changes you can't fight spam and Google admited by leting GG and MC to invite webmasters to report spam in other words (Soryy we can't doit we need your help)
Those updates have caused many innocent sites to drop or disappear ,for what ,for nothing.
There is no way fighting spam and the above examples i mention is an evidence.Anybodu can start a net work of pages even today start a link campaighn use the methods of those guys and within a year can make tones of $$$ with adsense or any other PPC program.So what Jagger will bring is only another boring concert of the old Stones.

[followgreg]

Well if we start giving out leads for spam here, see this one:

<snip>

At position 8 there is a cloaking page on my DC:
I won't post the live link but it's the url ending in /EN/french_caviar.html

Easy to find who did it, the SEO company doing it signs their cloaking pages and Google does n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

I warned Google sending spam reports long ago about the mother company (which is french, just follow the links and ou will find who it is) because they have countless cheats all across Europe...now they are in US and still no penalties...Welcome to Google double standards!

Can mister Googleguy explain me that?

I have 12's of other examples, if not 100's...

-->> for the moderators: feel free to remove this post if you think it is offending, although truth needs to be said someday!

[edited by: followgreg at 10:08 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 12:55 pm (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

[djmick200]

So J3 rolls out on Friday, IMO it will be slow then adjustments made and could be at least another week before anything is stable.

A couple of my smaller sites have done well with recent changes on the DC's that you guys have been mentioning (well the one's reseller mentions - he seems to be chief DC watcher) but I ain't holding my breathe. One in particular G wouldnt pee on it if it was on fire before even though it's 2 years old and bursting at the seams with quality content but seems to love it this week.

Anyway time will tell for us all..........some will win, some will lose, some will be even.

Shake those dice and let's roll them.

[edited by: djmick200 at 10:10 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

[johan]

You guys could be correct studying data centres all day however for me simply looking at google.co.uk results I had presumed the update to be over 2 days ago once the extra links at the bottom of listings for top sites ranking at number one had been displayed and everything looks more or less correct.

[foxtunes]

".....Shake those dice and let's roll them....."

Update Craps :)

[edited by: foxtunes at 10:13 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

[istar]

followgreg
I have posted in MC's blog spam reports but the scamers are still there kings ,if the moderators let us we can show them extreme examples of sites that are on #1 -#5 for BIG keywords and I mean BIG money terms in the travel industry.

[sailorjwd]

Last night I had 16 pages with the canonical problem.

This morning on 66.102.7.99 I am down to 3 + a url only entry. But my homepage is still one of them :(

[dudibob]

hey Followgreg, if youadd EN (in capitals) to the end of the domain name of that website, you get a big list of pages all signed :s lol

[followgreg]

followgreg
I have posted in MC's blog spam reports but the scamers are still there kings ,if the moderators let us we can show them extreme examples of sites that are on #1 -#5 for BIG keywords and I mean BIG money terms in the travel industry.

I have a database of major spammers myself, I will be with you if anyone wants us to post REAL scams as you said, not talking small spam anymore!

Please feel free to sticky mail me anytime ;-) I think that we deserve clean competition.

Next step is a press release, well written but it might hurt Google instead of helping so it's a bit extreme and not the objective at all :-) IMO!

Waiting for moderators or MC to give the green light...