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I've found it's a lot more motivational to get almost instant traffic, rather than waiting for Google to "get it right".
I still do not understand when relevancy drops.
I have consistently done well for one or other of these on a DC like 216.239.37.99 However, 3 days ago I started appearing top for both variations on 66.102.7.99
It is as if that datacentre has a more complete indexing of my pages.
I still see 3 dfferent sets of results across all DC.
As for some queries I made: Why the hell after finding sites from Isreal on top of SERP I find sites in Polish! LOL
Geo targeting and all the rest is not working well with Google so far I guess.
BTW, just for those who read my post the other day, the major spammer across Europe and now US is still alive and kicking, the signature on the bottom of their 100's of cloaking pages is an obvious proof, for sufficient for being banned, me think( sometimes)....a-n-y-w-a-y-s!
back to the future.
I wake up today to see my canonicals back as well as ALL my supplementals... poop
>>BTW, just for those who read my post the other day, the major spammer across Europe and now US is still alive and kicking,...<<
And in that connection, here is a shameless anti-spam promotion spot :-)
Folks! Don't wait to send Jagger-related spam feedback; I'd send that now. Using the keyword "Jagger" at [google.com...] will get someone reading and checking it out.
Thanks!
Yes, some sites seem to have gone back :( - which is a shame as they looked good for a while (although my rankings were not good, just internally it looked good (site search) - it did bring faith in Googles ability a bit more)
But the DCs are in very major flux within themselves still.
Cheers
Dayo
What I am seeing in
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
is not very encouraging. If these DC's really represent Jagger III I will loose lots of visitors.
Strangely enough - some of my competitors (competitive market) which are stuffing or using link exchanges are doing very well in these DC's.
For example - one of my competitors used a link exchange. At the beginning of Jagger he had 10 thousands of backlinks. These have been cut in half around 2 or 3 weeks ago. Probably he gained too many links in a too short period of time or tried something else.
In these DC's he is doing better than before. And my site is going down for every single search that brought me visitors before.
I do hope these DC's will not spread...
itloc
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.104
is not very encouraging.
Does anyone remember the quality site exclusion tests I had our students perform last week? It was a methodology to compare Google/Yahoo/MSN in terms of omitting important data sources from visible returns.
We used a particular data center at the time which seemed to be at the forefront of the current Google changes. Google came out way behind the other two in terms of this specific quality measure.
For anyone interested, I just ran a few of the samples through the above DCs. Google is even further behind. In fact much further.
This is important to us because we tend to need to find key sites in niche research areas quickly. Due to its haphazard burial of quality data sources Google is the least reliable in this respect, which is the reason we adopted MSN as default here back in September.
Anyone interested in the broad methodology we used can find it in the previous 'Jagger' thread to this one.
>> [66.102.11.99...]
the SERPs ordered for a site:domain.com search as:
- Index Page (FI)
- Pages Linked from Index Page (FI)
- Folders Linked from Index Page (FI)
- Other Pages (FI)
- ALL URL-only listings
where (FI) means Fully Indexed with modern cache, and shown in SERPs with Full Title and Description.
This is about the only change I have noticed in the last 4 or 5 days, apart from sites that are normally cached daily, suddenly having their 31 Oct cache reverted back to one from 27 Oct where it has since stuck.
Fresh tags have been mostly missing for several days too.
[edited by: g1smd at 12:06 pm (utc) on Nov. 5, 2005]
The previous Jagger thread is gone (404)
I expect that he has other much higher priorities at the present time.
I just walk up. Is Jagger 3 already live? If yes where?
Thank you.
J3 is on
66.102.11.99
66.102.9.99
and
66.102.11.104
66.102.9.104
For sites that I look at, they are all at the same position (within one or two spots) across every datacantre, and have not changed position by more than one or two spots at any time in the last few months.
I'm still waiting for something to start happening. From where I am sitting: no change (across about 100 searches, some of which are keyword searches, others of which are site:domain.com searches).
One has cached stuff going back to just about two years ago.
66.102.11.99
66.102.9.99
and
66.102.11.104
66.102.9.104
are the j3 results, they might as well not have bothered.
I bet we see it again later today.
There are three sets of results that I can find. I don't believe that any of these are J3. Why is that? Because I use what I believe are search terms that are not common. I don't look for ones that I want to rank #1 for, I look at those that I should easily rank in the top 20.
I still think we are going to see the first set of J3 on the 11 C Class centers. That's because J1 was on 7 and J2 was on 9. The fact that Matt finished his workday on Friday and didn't bother giving any update is a big hint that they are still working on J3.
He also mentioned it would spread slowly after appearing on one center. Maybe that story has changed but I don't expect it to appear on three or four centers at the same time - something that peeps here keep seeing.
I just wish they'd pick one and roll with it...
Depends on how you see the fix.
If the Canonical url fix means that pages dont suffer from ranking problems if the non-www is indexed then the 66.102.9.104 results look encouraging (eg Homepages coming on top for some sites)
If the Supplemental fix means that supplementals dont outrank more recently crawled content - then again 66.102.9.104 is encouraging.
It was more encouraging last night though when it seemed to be applied to more sites.
However, I still dont rank :(
So I think 66.102.9.104 is missing something (that something might be what is on some of the other dcs - eg 66.102.7.104s?) - put them together - then perhaps we might be getting closer.
I'm working on the theory that they haven't updated G yet with the canonical problems fixed - when I build a site, I do one step at a time and look at the results in case I need to roll it back again, so I'm (feebly) hoping G is doing the same!
On Wednesday the results were much better, some old non relevent sites had gone along with certain directory sites - now they are all back as before
If the UK results stick as they are it will all have been a total waste of time
As at now in the UK the results look exactly like they were prior to the update starting - looks like a pointless exercise if you ask me.
Pop 66.102.9.104 into your hosts file and try some searches :)
This DC is changing its cache dates, anyone else notice this?
Yes, I see the number of supplementals is less AND I see the cache dates are later as in March and April rather than the Feb dates I saw before. Hope this will get better and better.
