Update Jagger - Part 2

[Brett_Tabke]

Continued from
[webmasterworld.com...]

[Dayo_UK]

Yes fredde

But rankings still in the sewer?

It appears that the 301, or Google actually fixing it by itself can happen - while the rankings dont change.

I would guess that it is the first sign of an improvment - but my 301 from non-www to www was picked up in August I think - however rankings are and crawling is still wrong.

[arbitrary]

A 5 year old PR6 site that hasn't been touched or updated or changed in any way, shape, or form over the last 2 years

Maybe that is the problem right there.

[istar]

Didyou noticed in your logs increased references from Looksmart Excite Dogpile? (except of course Yahoo and MSN)
Does that means that Joe surfer is turning elsewhere the remote control for zaping?

[Pico_Train]

My site is 4 years, was PR7, went to PR5, just went up to PR6 and is affected. Make changes regularly, new articles, additions to old articles, some new sections, etc...

Not that one then.

[Perfection]

Maybe that is the problem right there.

Why would not updating a site for 2 years be a problem that would cause the site's rankings to drop an average of 5 pages for every single search term all of a sudden?

The content that got the site its original good rankings remains there, untouched. If anything, the lack of new content would just stop the site from improving. I see no reason why it should cause it to drop.

Unless there's something I'm just not seeing? I'm open to opinions.

[sfgirl]

Thanks Day_o & The Bear!

That makes sense. Eek - I think we're in for a ride. Looks like because of recend October downward trends, we're going full speed at fixing URL problems right now during the beginning of Jagger 3 update - hope we survive!

[Eazygoin]

Take a look at this folks :[itmanagement.earthweb.com ] and click on the 'open letter' link in it.
Quite frightening if its all true!

[taps]

Perfection: If your site is perfectly ok for Google doing nothing for years would be fine - never touch a running system ;-)

But maybe there are some issues like duplicate content, that have been detected by Google right now. WW is full with postings about old sites that vanished surprisingly from the index. (Mine has been hit too.)

[Dayo_UK]

Eazygoin

Lol - and I dont get any credit for spotting that issue first in that article :)

Anyway - that is a different issue to what problem a lot of sites are facing. (IMO)

[joeduck]

I just found the "Googlewashing" hijack site as well while searching for a phrase I'd used at Matt's blog!

Some (including me) have suggested for months that duplicate content / scraping downranks are the "next 302" and a major issue in killing good sites.

Will Jagger 3 help solve this since it may be considered a form of canonical page identification? I'm hoping.

Dayo - what do you mean? I've been thinking that what appears to be a scraping-then-downranking effect is related to this and to 301 302 handling.

*edited to add last paragraph*

[edited by: joeduck at 6:41 pm (utc) on Nov. 2, 2005]