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Sorry I was having tea :)
I would be able to tell - as the homepage would out rank internal pages for some searches - at the moment an interal page outranks the homepage - despite all the links and relevant anchor text going to the homepage.
Eg if I search on Unique Company name - the home page should be the first result from my site (It is the most relevant) - If I search on "www.domain.com" the homepage should be the first result from my site (unless I have really optimized an internal page with www.domain.com as the keyword - or redirected say like Matts blog has.)
If I search on site:domain.com domain.com - the homepage should be the first result.
That is what I would immediately look for - after that then I would hope that G starts crawling the homepages as the first point of a crawl - eg not starting crawls at www.domain.com/anypage/anypage.html
I assume fredde fix means that if he queries domain.com it displays www.domain.com - but that does not fix the ranking problems that occur with canonical url problems. It is a good sign - but only the very start.
But fredde please expand if you can?
Jagger3 still does not look like it has started IMO!
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 5:57 pm (utc) on Nov. 2, 2005]
Guys,These 4 DC's have completely dropped my site. What does everyone else see on these ones?
66.102.11.104
66.102.9.104
66.102.11.99
66.102.9.99
A 5 year old PR6 site that hasn't been touched or updated or changed in any way, shape, or form over the last 2 years which used to rank somewhere on the first page for about 40 separate search terms now ranks anywhere from 3-10 pages BACK for those same terms on those DCs.
It almost feels like a penalty in that every single term that it was in the top 5 results for is now not even in the top 5 pages. But being that it meets all guidelines and hasn't had a problem during the last few years, a penalty all of a sudden makes absolutely no sense.
It's almost more like... a glitch. Like something isn't being taken into account somewhere for this site.
All of my URL only pages just disappeared form the search engine. Not even supplimental results.
I sure hope there is a re-index of them coming because the only reason they went URL only was a sorting option that added "&preview=yes" to the URL. I
I have since resolved the issue, but am still missing all content that was indexed with 2 different URL's. Why would they delete "BOTH" of them...?
A bit of background on the canonical/supplemental "issue/problem".
If you had a site that had both the www and non-www answering with a 200 retrun code and the bots were sent to each then two entries were created in Google's system for that page.
One of those two entries may have gone supplemental thus getting locked for all time into Google's supplemental jail.
So poor Google has tons of trash in its index and from where I sit sites get "filtered/penalized/pushed down" for this. Now I don't have the code up on the screen to be able to say this for certain. I've heard tons of arguement both ways, however it sure acts that way to me.
Google can to a degree repair this if the affected sites have working 301s AND google respiders its supplemental index.
My bet is that a large number of those pages would point elsewhere or be gone.
That is but one part of the canonical mess in a nut shell.
Why would a search engine want to target tons of duplicate content well go out and buy a pile of processing power to handle all of the webs trash.
Don't think so, however it would be nice if there was a means for folks to clean it up when we find it and not just hide it.
The plain raw facts are that the SERP's are being moved around all the time, and although it is nice to check from time to time, the SERP's will not settle down for some time to come.
Anticpating Jagger3 and what it will do, is pure speculation, as although we have been told that canonical issues will be dealt with, the SERP's results will continue to jump around for the next two weeks IMO.
This morning one of my keywords was at number 3. When I got home from a hard days boating, it was at number 18. Then I checked 2 minutes later and it was back to number 3 on 66.102.11.99.
This will continue to happen, until such a time as Google has finished the update.
when searching for
site:www.widget.com blah
I see supplemental results for blah first. On the second page I find the first non supplemental result. (Yes, my site is under a dupe content penalty :-()
sure ;)
on these DCs mentioned i ve checked a domain which suffers currently from that canonical issue. checking on mcdar, these DC displayed some former wrong urls converted back to www.domain.com. all other DC didnt. but: these DC are definetely on jagger stage 1 (jagger on stage ;)).
currently i see some more DCs displaying the results from 66.102.11.104/ 66.102.9.104 (e.g. 64.233.167.104, 216.239.37.104), still switching heavily.
Which is just stupid.
I can search for a page that has a cache of a few days ago and this will not appear from my site as it is outranked by 2 dead supplemental pages from my site that link to the page (therefore removing the recently cached page from the result - eg 2 results from a site)
