Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[thecityofgold2005]

And also on this dc: 66.102.11.104

[lee_sufc]

This is terrible for me - I hope these results change fast!

[idolw]

We are in hotel/travel business, where the word 'widgets' is more important than destination name.
We offer stuff in small places, where large widget engines have no more than 3 deals. We offer up to 30 deals per small place - we are simply much better.
my quality site got hardly hit by Jagger1.
Jagger2 SERPs look even worse.
Time to become Adwords king ;)

[300m]

I agree, i am absolutley lost at this point. some pages have not moved, but others have plumetted to the depths of dispair. No difference in concept between the pages that have moved and the ones that have not. To make matters worse, i am being asked to make changes to a couple of domains and I do not want to until everything settles down, but the person that signs my pay checks thinks i am out of my mind, because he feels that this is 100% my doing. I am hoping in time he will understand that this is a series of updates and all of my work was white hat, but who knows, i guess i will have to roll with the punches for a little longer before he beleives me. 2 sites have taken HUGE hits and i just want to pick up the pieces, but i have no idea what to do at this point.

[lee_sufc]

This is what I have noticed in my industry - I seem to be the only site moving (but for the worse). I don't do anything I shouldn't do on my site, all my HTML is validated etc and I only have a small link campaign - specifically with related links?!?!

I wish I knew what I could do as after Jagger1 my traffic was down 50% - if things stay like this they will no doubt be down by around 70%!)

[thecityofgold2005]

I find the new serps a bit cleaner in the sector I look at.

There are still a few black-hat sites that need wiping out but so far Jagger2 is an improvement.

[300m]

One thing that confuses me is that i made 200 or so sub pages over a 4 month time frame and missed the last pr update by days, this time for one of the sites that was harder hit, almost all of the pages that used to do very well in the serps now have a PR of 5. This is what is making me pull my hair out because i just can not understand why a site that is plummeting in the serps since last weekend is getting such a high PR for its first go around. The site has been active for at least 5 or 6 years too. I guess i would have one question that i have right now.

Is it at all possible that g is giving heavier concequences to domains that have all of the subpages interlinked with anchor text throughout the site? I almost want to say yes, but then i see pr5 on a large amount of those sub pages. Sorry if i sound confusing, it is not intentional.

[Spanish_eye]

What I don't get is why does Google persist on implementing these lethal updates at such an important time for online businesses? This is two years in a row now. I understand that the intention is to improve the serps but legitimate businesses, such as mine, will always suffer for no explicable reason.

Come on Google, sort it out and put our hard-worked and honest sites back where they should be. Some of us cannot wait "weeks" for this all to settle down, if it ever does.

[GoogleGuy]

thecityofgold2005, now is a good time to mention any spam sites with the jagger2 keyword if you see them. Operators are standing by to read your feedback. :)

Markoi, I would give us index feedback on Jagger2 if you think there are ranking issues. We'll be looking more closely at spam feedback, but some people will be reading the index feedback already, and we'll really pore over it starting with Jagger3.

I gots to head into work. Everybody knows how to give us spam feedback (spam report form) and index feedback (dissatisfied link) with jagger2, I'm hoping.

[GoogleGuy]

Spanish_eye, I believe Florida rolled out in mid/late November of 2003. I'm trying to press everyone on my end to get changes out sooner rather than later--but we can't put a hold on launching changes for ~3 months in a calendar year, unfortunately. That would keep us from launching things 1/4th of the time.