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Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

         

jretzer

5:33 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

brokenbricks

12:29 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On 66.102.9.104 I appear to be out of the sandbox for my main term. Was buried at 250 something for the past 8 months and now showing on page 5. On related similar words I've got several #1s. Finally.

Jagger 2 baby.

lee_sufc

12:30 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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JuniorOptimizer - you're not the only one who isn't happy with those rsults - my site has dropped in rankings considerably but I can't find a reason why?!? My PR went up to 6 yet ranknigs are continuously dropping?

WebPixie

12:47 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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-Jagger2 results look slightly better overall in my market areas. There are still several directories and "reveiw" sites ranking decently well with no real content and just a ton of keywords splattered all over. But not that much change from Jagger1.

-My backlinks also changed on the jagger2 results, but no change in PR. Has anyone noticed a change in PR on any site but MSN with the Jagger2 results?

-For the people still killed by jagger, my main site has almost recovered with jagger2. As hard as it was to sit on my hands while my site was buried, it seems like it was again the right move. From experience, my advice is don't over-react and start changing things during an update. I'm not sure I've recovered yet from the last time I did that.

Lorel

12:52 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The ironic thing is that the people who profited from this update live in ivory towers. They don't post here.

Or maybe those of us whose traffic has been going up since this update started are just reading gathering data and because we're not hurting we're not posting.

I heard that this update has penalized travel sites--one of the most competitive markets. I have been analysing websites for someone in the travel industry and found multiples of common problems on all his websites. They are basically copies of each other--only the main keywords change in different cities and too many affilliate links compared to original content along with AdSense on every page, ie. a Thin Affiliate which have been penalized of late. He also has thousands of backlinks accredited to each site which were probably gained by one of those "submit to thousands of websites" programs which produce nothing but garbage links. All his sites suffer from the same problems, a lot of which have been discussed in this recent update.

The sites reek of being designed solely for the purpose to make money off the affifliates, AdSense and site wide links on every site to his other sites. All his sites are designed to promote his own sites--there is not enough original content to benefit the user. And thus those sites have dropped out of sight and he's having to do a complete redesign of alllll his websites because he followed bad advice.

If the above mirrors your own site stop and consider the visitor to your site. Are you offering what they need or are you just trying to make money off them?

Content is still King!

Dayo_UK

1:00 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)



>>>happy gentlemen; Dayo_UK

Yes, if they get it right Reseller :)

Still hard to see how a site that has been dead as a duck for a while can come back - but if they get the homepage correct then it will hopefully be like breathing life back into it.

mikey158

1:06 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you Google! Please make those new results stick. Two sites 9 mos and 5 mos both out of the box with decent rankings (not page 1 though). White hat all the way.

So what color hat does Jagger wear? I have been using my now favorite SE - Google to look for a pic of Mick wearing a hat.. cant find any.. anyone?

Jon_King

1:08 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No need to report spam yet the update is not over.

almar

1:13 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"does anyone disagree with the notion that this update is heavily skewed in favor of content sites vs e-commerce driven?"

We are mainly a content site that also has affiliate marketing and advertising- to put it bluntly, we have had the Google kicked out of us!

Excuse me GoogleGuy, but "The quality team may wait until Jagger3 is visible somewhere before delving into the non-spam index feedback."

Does that mean that maybe by the time we have the JaggerGreatGrandson14 update we can be in the black again. Happy holidays to you too!

seo4real

1:15 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Very strange things are happening IMO:

My Pagerank 5 website has no cloackingpages whatsoever. Everything is optimized thru the "white-hat" SEO way.
My site allmost doesn't show up in Google, i used to be nr1,2,3 etc. for a lot of keywords and now i'm on page 4 and 5!

When i type my domainname like #*$!#*$!.nl in Google, all the backlinks like DMOZ are showing up with the name in it, but my own domain doesn't.
There are no visual signs of a ban because all the backlinks are ok, the pagerank is till PR5 and a lot pf PR4 html's and the descriptions are also good.

If i understand correctly this is the way "Jagger" is working:

- Jagger1 - active last week (PR updates)
- Jagger2 - is running now
- Jagger3 - will start today or in a couple of days and will end somewhere next week.

I have no paid backlinks, i don not sell backlinks.

Will my site be back in the top of Google or is it over and out for me?

Kind regards,
Raymond

Spanish_eye

1:17 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing minor changes on 66.102.9.104 for the keywords that I monitor. My 2 sites (both related to spanish property) are still nowhere! Both used to rank really well. Getting very concerned now!

The only thing I can think may have affected them is that we converted all our dynamic urls to static urls (about 90% of pages of each site). We used 301s when we did this about 6 - 8 weeks ago.

Other sites I monitor are still ranking well for their traditional keywords but are nowhere for their newer pages and keywords.

I also see sites using coop ad network (I don't use it) acutally ranking better for some key phrases now.

Just can't make sense of any of it!

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