Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[Pico_Train]

This update is stinking so far. 50% traffic gone.

This happened back in May. Completely kicked out from fantastic search positions. Clean, clean, clean.

Wrote to Google. First response, I said that wasn't good enough and asked to take a look, 2nd response was a bit more interesting.

Came back a month later in Mid-June. 1 month gone. 1 month income gone. 1 month wasted. The biggest month of the year.

Now everytime there is an update, am I going to go through the same thing? Getting nailed for some obscure reason, write to Google repeatedly and ask what's up? Every update before May, ran smoothly, no affect really if not an improvement in results.

How does a site increase PR, go from position 2 to 21, on all other results, many of which were 1st page for the last 4 years, go to 50+?

Really? What's up?

[lee_sufc]

Pico-Train - I am noticing the same. My PR has gone from 5 to a 6 but my rankings are dropping FAST! I am not doing anything I shouldn't be doing on my site and have been on top 10 for most keywords for well over a year...

[GoogleGuy]

Happy to try to help, reseller. If I find out more of use, I'll let you know.

Dayo_UK, the optimistic part of me wants to say mid next week. But I've learned not to make promises. :)

[reseller]

Dayo_UK

>>Thanks GG for confirmation......

Oh and Good night. <<

As a GoogleGuyologist, I have a feeling that GG mightbe today somewhere just not far from you and I. Northern Europe, Maybe?

But then even a GoogleGuyologist mightbe wrong ;-)

[edited by: reseller at 9:00 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]

[Dayo_UK]

Ok - thanks again.

Anyway you can tell what stage 2 is aimed at - not noticing anything on Canonical issues - so cant see hardly any difference in the serps I monitor - stage 1 seemed to have a bit of that.

Just new spam filters etc?

Added - Ok seen MC blog post too. - Yes, intresting the point that it will take a couple of days for the changes to be visible on the dc 66.102.9.104 - so bit early perhaps for panic/feedback and jumping out of windows.

Intresting - so when GG/MC talk about flux - sometimes it means flux on the DC rather than flux between the dcs?

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 9:02 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]

[McMohan]

McMohan, good eyes in spotting some changes at 66.102.9.104.

Thanks GG :) Would you suggest we wait until Jagger3 rolls out before reporting on spam, penalties etc? Since Jagger3 may address problems we are facing after Jagger1 & 2, we may not have a reason to send feedbacks after Jagger3 settles.

[edited by: McMohan at 9:03 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]

[lee_sufc]

GG - thanks for the details but I have one question with regards to that DC you mentioned - is it likely to change much before it is used?

Reading my previous couple of posts you'll see that my site has dropped considerably but I don't know why..

cheers...

[thecityofgold2005]

GG, have you been enjoying the craic?

[Pico_Train]

Yes, thanks GG, will keep an eye out for positive changes!

Good question McMohan.

[zeus]

66.102.9.104 there is some changes in serps, still early in the update and I think part3 will realy shake it "if" they are making changes to the supplemental issue with more. The will always be a few sites that almost gone from the serps, but some of them will return in part 2-3 thats how it used to be, of cause a few will be gone for real.

Dayo - about canocial issue I still dont see any changes, but ok it should maybe happen in part 3, one thing I will say it not a 100% this is your problem it could also be scrapers that have a to large copy of your pages and then you are filtered or a still active 302 link, but maybe that will also get fixed in part 3.

about spam 66.102.9.104 I dont see that huge different than was usualy is in the serps and if you take a look at yahoo, you will huge amount of scrapers on page 2... on a search, thats not the case on google.

[edited by: zeus at 9:10 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]