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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Continued From:

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

bbcarter

8:10 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Venix,

Writing content is not necessarily the solution.

Scraper sites can beat you on content volume quickly, and their ability to fool SEs is only increasing.

Focus on natural ways to increase backlinks, and on alternate revenue strategies.

waiheke

8:13 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I know that many feel G is broken and I believe that something is not right.
In the "Good old days" G use to read the text on the page to suitably place a site, in my opinion this is no longer the case.
I have been watching a competitor site of mine that has actually been off line for a couple of weeks now with a message in large font "Account for domain www.***********.co.nz has been suspended" The title also has the same message "<TITLE>Site has been suspended</TITLE>"

G still has the site listed, 6th on the page with the short description showing "Accommodation and information directory" last spidered 01JUN05 and the cached page showing the site suspended page.

In the good old days your pages were read for content but seemingly no more. Lets hope they manage to fix it soon as G was a good search facility.

arubicus

8:18 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Whooo hooo! Thanks bear

rewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^.*\/index\.shtml
rewriteRule ^(.*)index\.shtml$ http://www.example.com/$1 [R=301,L]

^^^^All I can say is finally.

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}!^www\.example\.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}!^$
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.example.com/$1 [L,R=301]

Still get a code 200 for non trailing slash www root.

www.example.com < code 200
www.example.com/ < code 200

Will this cause any problems?

Tropical Island

8:36 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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...that many feel G is broken

For what it's worth the RankPulse index for 1000 search terms shows very little activity over the last 2 weeks.

I'll let the rest of you figure that one out.

japanese

8:40 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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theBear,

Fabulous and informative post. The kind that is helpful and awe inspiring as to how many things can be done with the right knowledge.

…….

Perhaps GoogleGuy can learn how to reply to posts in an informative manner and let some webmasters here know why their sites were sent into the darkside of the abyss, instead of insulting remarks like 3.5 updates. We don’t mind even whilst he eats caviar in first class during globe trotting trips at the expense of good websites.

He is not aloof nor is google to anybody else. They are secretive and cryptic in their answers. Webmasters want a proper reply as to what is in Bourbon and why so drastic an update.

Google must know that this will foster the biggest spamming techniques yet on the internet. It will not stop a determined webmaster finding a weak algo's loopholes. Google cannot stop webmasters from being ranked. We will find a way that beats the algo rather than work with a secret formula.

As soon as available and Longhorn incorporates msn search it may be payback time for google. By simply dispensing a script that offers to change homepage via a click on your website may be what it takes. If that does not I am sure more industrious webmasters will force the change via a trojan script.

Clints website was tanked into total oblivion and we want answers as to why this was the case.

walkman

8:51 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



I suppose the 0.5 has been implemented. Now all is left the last 1.0, correct? And we should expect that in the next week or so? am I missing something?

ltedesco

9:01 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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walkman,
I don't know about you, but I am missing my old page rankings! :o)

Did anyone notice any difference on this 0.5 update? It looks the same for me!

theBear

9:01 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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arubicus, there is an Apache mod that handles that as well as a set of rewrite rules, I haven't played with the rewrite rules for it nor have I checked to see what comes back if I hit the server without the / on the ones that auto include it.

HTH on one of the things.

I found that after I stopped paying attention to what has been posted on a lot of sites and read the documentation on rewrite and in particular extended regular expressions (yes it is dense) it all started to make sense.

You still have site specific things to consider, things that are different in your setup and software than mine. Always check the server headers and always verify using more than one tool. Tools have been known to be wrong (duh).

Now we know about the mess and we have have an Idea why and in some cases we even know who.

What we don't know is why it isn't easier to fix the mess.

Don't confuse the site spliting mess with some other stuff that is different but can be used along with spliting sites.

Now for the folks that think spidering a site is black magic wget -r -w1 domainname will do it if you have a copy of wget (a small 184,236 byte program) on your system I'm not saying that wget and Googles spider are even close but the basic code kind of has to be.

[edited by: theBear at 9:08 pm (utc) on June 3, 2005]

helleborine

9:02 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't think the "O.5" has gone through. I've been seeing the same depressing two sets of SERPs for at least 4 days.

confused ellie

9:17 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Clints website was tanked into total oblivion and we want answers as to why this was the case."

Mine's in oblivion too. :S So many in oblivion....

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