Google Update Bourbon Part 3

[Sweet Cognac]

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

[japanese]

glengara,

You said;

“””It's all very well holding up Clint as the iconic victim of some whimsical algo-change by G, but it's a load of cobbblers.
If he's typical of those who've suffered a drop, you've no-one to blame but yourselves ;-)”””

I suppose you would have uttered the same comatose sentiment when we proved the 302 hijack was hurting websites. The webmasters who were hijacked were to blame in your opinion? Am I correct?

And Clint is to blame for his site now in the dolldrums, yes?

I think google is to blame. The guy's website has tanked into total oblivion and a single company running 80% of the internet should be held responsible. The internet was not created for google to control.

Wake up and get a life before you make such silly comments.

[glengara]

The Bear, Clint was new to this game, went too far, and is now suffering, Japanese will have you blame G, I won't ;-)

Japanese, you obviously didn't bother to read the thread dealing with Clint's problems over at SEW.

I suggest you do before putting him up as the latest martyr in your (IMO), paranoid ramblings ;-)

[edited by: glengara at 10:31 pm (utc) on June 3, 2005]

[oldpro]

listen to theBear...take it from me, he knows what he is talking about.

[Richie0x]

Well I am blaming Google. I'm skimmed through these very long threads, and it seems as though my site has been picked out to be a spam site. This isn't true at all, and I can't even think of the remotest thing that could be wrong with it.

I feel like I've been arrested and put in jail for something I've never done.

If Google doesn't sort this out soon, I'll have to go find a job. I rely on AdSense for my income, and now my referrals have dropped, my earnings have also dropped by 90% and I'm not even exagerating either.

>:(

[confused ellie]

Unfortunately Richie, many of us are going through the same problems. It's frustrating and the update isn't over. Many of us are keeping our fingers crossed and hoping for the best. I am sorry to hear you are suffering as well. Many have made some interesting points or have suggested things worth thinking about. Maybe something in this thread can help you but I have a feeling we are all going to have to wait this "event" out and see where the chips fall. :(

[oldpro]

I have a suggestion...

Why don't all that have been severely affected by Bourbon include the websites in question in their profiles. Then let us that have been in this game awhile take a look at them.

Maybe then we can make some valid assumptions as to what Bourbon is all about.

[glengara]

Now that's a good idea guys, let's do that, I'll go first....

Come on Japanese, I want to see you in particular ;-)

[edited by: glengara at 10:45 pm (utc) on June 3, 2005]

[netmeg]

that seems like a really good idea - but maybe in a new thread?

The thing is, the bourbon update has been nothing but good for me and my clients (maybe 150 sites, but there's only about 25 where it's critical enough that we watch it like a hawk) and I couldn't begin to tell you WHY it has worked so well for us; as far as we are concerned we did nothing out of the ordinary. In fact, we undid some stuff we'd done before to get better ranking.

One of my personal sites went from tons of referrals three years ago, to absolutely no referrals for the past two years, only to move to the top of the list with bourbon. I'm not bragging; I can't take any credit for it cause as far as I can tell, I didn't do it. It just happened. But maybe there's some things can be figured out by comparing notes more specifically.

[Jane_Doe]

when we proved the 302 hijack was hurting websites. The webmasters who were hijacked were to blame in your opinion? Am I correct?

Yes, in my opinion you are correct. Googleguy stated that many of the sites that were outranked by scrapers and redirects had spam penalties. In most, not all, but most, of the sites I've looked at the lower rankings than the scrapers and redirects are very likely due to spam penalties.

I think a lot of people here don't realize how easy it is to get a spam penalty these days, and it gets easier and easier with each tweak of the algo. ;)

[theBear]

glengara, I'm not blaming anyone.

If I wanted to blame someone it would be the folks who set up stupid defaults for canned hosting services like oh WHM and cPanel, etc. etc . etc. just like M$ putting a mess on most folks desktops.

If Clint pushed it fine, if not fine, he knows he has duplicate content problems.

Just like DMOZ and it's 11+ million pages at least 47,000 of them on the IP addy as an alias.

All I know is what I have seen I just take a quick look tell them what I've found.