Google Update Bourbon Part 3

[Sweet Cognac]

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[webmasterworld.com...]

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

[jgbmarc]

"Maybe and I say maybe, the folks at Google have decided that business and semi business sites shouldn't have a free lunch any more at top 10 or top 20 of the serps."

Google:
Yeah, instead let's give these results to spammers.

[steveb]

"The redirect is/was through my own domain!"

Doesn't matter. "Hijack" sounds sinister but it just means some other URL displays instead of the correct URL (the one with the content on it).

[reseller]

jgbmarc

>Google:
Yeah, instead let's give these results to spammers.<

Depends on your definition of a spam site.

Pls stay with me for a moment and lets look at the following two cases with open minds ;-)

Lets assume:

- that the top 20 results on a specific serp are all occupied by resource sites which display 2-3 AdSense spots on each and every page of the sites.
In this case Google generates revenues in two ways; Adwords on the serps and AdSense on the top 20 listed sites.

- that the top 20 results on the same specific serp are all occupied by Business sites.
In this case Google generates revenues ONLY in one way; Adwords

Which of the two above cases meet the wishes of Google´s Stockholders most?

Thanks for listening!

[jgbmarc]

i hear ya reseller,

i just find it difficult to believe that Google would ignore what put them on top. ie, the most relevant results

but i understand all the conspiracy theories out there. I just have faith in them keepin it real to what got them on top.

[Rollo]

Rollo, the combination of 3 AdSense units (flag to apply a scraper filter?), >400 internal links (a hallmark of scrapers), and some keyword rich text might have done me in.

Yes, I'd guess a site brimming with ads, 400 links each, and not much original content wouldn't be the sort of thing Google or users would find relevant. I'd say you should change your original content to garbage ratio dramatically, cut way, way, down on the links per page, and maybe focus on a couple well targeted ads per page only. Sounds like you might have a spam-o-ramma going on there... that'll do anyone in sooner or later.

[helleborine]

Whoa! Rollo! My site is 100%, artistic, original content. Zero garbage, so my content/garbage ratio is x/0. There were 3 Adsense units because the page was longish. Not excessively long.

I set it up that way for visitor navigation.

You're joking with me, right?

[activeco]

Which of the two above cases meet the wishes of Google´s Stockholders most?

Google is already a mature, experienced company with the long term success goals.
They, for sure, do not have the kind of take-the-money-and-run mentality.

Lets assume:

a) Getting $1000 a day for a period of few months until the users realise you don't provide quality they looked for and finally everything dry out

b) Getting $200 a day maintaining quality for indefinite period of time

Which of the two above cases would you choose?

[Pico_Train]

It could be broken.

Why would one of my search still provide a first page result and the rest be pretty much banished anywhere from page 6 to page 30?

Very strange.

[Dayo_UK]

helleborine

Assume Rollo read your post wrong.

Did you have any luck asking on your hosts tech forum regarding 301 redirects from non-www to www?

[reseller]

activeco

>Lets assume:

a) Getting $1000 a day for a period of few months until the users realise you don't provide quality they looked for and finally everything dry out<

Starting the devil advocate for a moment :-)

Not if the resource sites provide you with the info and links to what you are searching for.
The only difference here is that you reach what you are looking for through pages wich display AdSense spots. I.e you reach your target in two clicks instead of one.

End of devil advocate.