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Google Update Bourbon Part 3

         

Sweet Cognac

8:35 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My whole site has a new cache date of May 25th. Maybe once these other sites around me get recached, I won't hold such an honorable top position. But at least Google has found my pages worthy to sit in the Search again.:) It seems strange to look at the stats and see Google in there, after 6 months of just seeing Yahoo and MSN referrals.

My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]

reseller

7:57 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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jaffstar

>Algo2, on [64.233.163.104,...] ranks my site at the top, to similar positions where it's ranked in Y and M. I would say some penalty is relaxed on Algo2, possibly a link devaluation penalty (sandbox). <

Can you give an example of a DC showing algo1 in action too?

Thanks.

jaffstar

8:05 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here you go Reseller:

[64.233.161.105...]

reseller

8:11 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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jaffstar

>Here you go Reseller:

[64.233.161.105<...]

FASCINATING!

I see around 4 different "serps groups" through out the DCs. You see 2 algos.

If everything is rotating, we end up with:

2 algos x 4 serps groups = 8 combinations

Well done google engineers!

jaffstar

8:17 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's possibly that they rotate their Dc's to Feed www1-www2-www3.

Data Center's that have let sites out of the sandbox (algo2), could be fed into www1-www2-www3 every 1/8 searches. Therefore giving them a taste of the pie, but not a full slice.

reseller

8:19 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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jaffstar

>It's possibly that they rotate their Dc's to Feed www1-www2-www3.<

Very possible..my friend. Very possible!

May I call it "THE MAGIC of THE ROTATING ALGOS"?

jaffstar

8:26 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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THE MAGIC of THE ROTATING ALGOS"?

LOL!

How about:

"Rotating Algo Lottery" * you never know when your algo will be picked*

*chuckle*

Clint

8:33 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



I'm seeing irrelevant results for uncompetitive phrases but the results for competitive phrases look good.
Are any of you who are complaining about irrelevance looking at competitive phrases?

Yes, mine are DEFINITELY competitive phrases and the results are loaded with non-relevent BS! When I search for it in QUOTES, all the sites on the first page don't even have the go**amn phrases on it!

[edited by: Clint at 8:38 am (utc) on May 30, 2005]

reseller

8:35 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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jaffstar

>"Rotating Algo Lottery" * you never know when your algo will be picked* <

EXACTLY...

Several posts on this and other threads are confirming the theory..

Actually the fellow members have been describing the symptoms of the ROTATING ALGOS since allegra.

Clint

8:52 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



I just found a page which is now beating one of my pages in the SERPS.
The page:

1. Doesn't have the keyword phrase in the page title.
2. Doesn't have the keyword phrase in the page filename.
3. Doesn't have the keyword phrase in the page text.
4. Doesn't contain one of the three words in the keyword phrase at all - anywhere.
5. Has 0 backlinks.
6. Is in Chinese.

Sure Google... sure this is more "relevant" than a page which is all about that keyword phrase.


A page? When I search for the phrases where I was 1st, ALL but a couple of the pages that now show fit that criteria! And in my case, most of them are in INDIA! It's this way using ANY of the Google IP's! It appears they've been hacked by Asia! Futhermore, as of today, I've now been TOTALLY ELIMINATED from their results for every search phrase I've checked and on every Google.com IP I've checked!

Clint

9:04 am on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)



Now I'm convinced G really is broken.
I just discovered one of my pages which dropped drastically, is indexed TWICE in the index. Which would acccount for a duplicate penalty, and I would fully accept as my booboo, except...
It's indexed once as itself and once as the URL of the ancient page which was redirected to it (same domain, different file name) over 3 years ago and has been ever since! I found this by doing an allinurl: on the full address of the current page which was dumped. It's definitely a 301 in the .htaccess redirecting it. If you click on the listing in google it goes straight to the new page. Best of all... the cache on the ancient page listing...
[ dramatic pause]
... is dated: Sep 27, 2004!
Folks, I think it's time for G to hang it up and put things back to how they were. I don't think there's much else WE Webmasters can humanly do. I thought about doing an urgent URL removal, but decided it'll probably just do more damage to their database than good at this point.

Mike can you please elab on that "allinurl:" command? What should be showing for that? When I do it, allinurl:MyDomain.com, only TWO pages show up! One is the index page and the other is the "main" page. Does this signify anything?

Also, can you or anyone tell me if I should remove my parked/pointed domains? They are related domain names that when they are "clicked" they go to my main domain name and site and THEIR URL's appear in the address bar, not my main domain URL. (This is done in cPanel). I hate to do this since a couple of them are at least showing up in a search for my biz name.

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