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My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]
A little advise...
With Google in a mess...ie:
1) PR tool bar gone.
2) Bourbon making no sense.
3) Google's own unique keyword (adsense) was trumped by a two-bit meta redirect.
4) Cache server down.
5) and who knows what else will happen.
The chickens have come home to roost on their convoluted algo. I suspect now with all the tweaking in the past...now they fix one thing and another thing breaks down.
I still have great rankings on Google, but I am not betting the farm it will stay that way. For those who have taken a bad hit with this mess...unless there is something obviously wrong with your site, don't mess with it. Wait this thing out...and in the meantime concentrate on keeping or improving your rankings on Yahoo and MSN.
Enjoy the holiday...have some fun. Don't allow yourself to become co-dependent with a bi-polar google.
Coincidence?
I guess they try to rebuild their index to get rid of the spam stuff... Hope I am right and everything is "good" when it is finally over ...
...not... ....good....
But do you have a large number of links on the ranking pages to external pages/other domains? That is one of the key detriments, you didn't mention.
G LIKES sites that are new, fresh and run Adsense, and don't link lots of other sites besides Adsense.
Yes, 10~200 external link depending on the category of course. BTW, horrible traffic today HORRIBLE! I must have envied myself!
About the greyed toolbar pagerank, I don't know whether I heard it somewhere or was I dreaming but I thought that the last version of the toolbar does not have a pagerank display, so I thought that they disabled the pagerank display from the old versions too, but I just checked the toolbar homepage and found it as a feature! It seems like I was having a dream indeed.
Drastic changes included removal of long list of internal links, increase in the amount of text.
And just to be ABSOLUTELY certain...
...I just removed the 3 AdSense units.
If Google still thinks I'm a scrapper after that, I won't know what to do.
Anyone has a guess on how long it might take for the changes to make a difference in the rankings?
In my sector which is a big commercial sector this is the outcome of a TYPICAL sector search done since after midnight Friday:-
Top 30 results in the serps:-
8 Directory sites
3 Re-directs/ doorways (black hat page of links pointing to home page) older sites can get away with this now.
2 sites with Pure pages of links only of no use to the user.
5 sites not even remotely conected to the search term other than they provide a service for a site connected to the search term and have an outbound link to them.
8 sites with SOME on topic content that May be of use
4 sites that hit the spot.
Thats less than 12% return of relevent content - how long before users switch?
Outside of the 30 some sites rich in content about the search and of high benefit to the end user dont feature.
I would say Google is currently hanging itself
At one point i thought that MSN and Yahoo would have no chance of catching google. It looks like Google now in fact want to help them both out!
Twice today i went to google to search for content about two different things nothing to do with the sector im involved with. I just gave up and went to Yahoo in the end.
Priceless
>Drastic changes included removal of long list of internal links, increase in the amount of text.<
I would have waited a little more to make such "Drastic" changes. At least til we hear something from the fat lady ;-)
And there is no evidence whatsoever that the number of internal links on a page alone might trigger a filter. I have a page with 100+ internal links which ranks at top 10 for a very competitive keyphrase.
>And just to be ABSOLUTELY certain...
...I just removed the 3 AdSense units.<
The same above mentioned page has 3 spots of AdSense too. Nothing pointing in the direction that AdSense alone trigger a filter.
Stop analysing and optimizing your sites for this piece of crap. Get it into your heads....GOOGLE is broken. Nothing to do with your pages or SEO efforts, and everything to do with a bug riddled algo mechanism, which is patched to the point were no one realy know (google included) how this thing works anymore..
I say amen, brother.
Reseller, for some reason the 301 redirects keep popping up as a factor occassionally too. Keep that in mind when you're investigating. Pages which were recently moved and 301 redirected to seem to have more chance of being dumped. Sorta like they're discounting those links behind the 301. Hopefully just a temporary thing.
Also on sites with a lot of dumped pages, the ordering of site:domain.com results is all screwed up. Non-description pages are showing up first, like all those pages have been stripped of PR.
We used to rank top 5 in multiple keywords in Google, unfortunately we are nowhere to be found as of today.
Currently we are receiving multiple emails from users of our site complaining that they are not finding us in Google anymore...what a nightmare!
For now we are refering our users to Yahoo and MSN also informing them that Google has broken down into pieces.
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For those kiddos sitting in GOOGLE offices. GO FIGURE!
