Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

[illusionist]

My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

[Macro]

brixton, your campaign against Google, your verbal abuse about them (now removed), your all-in-capitals posts (now removed), and your continued vendetta don't help the discussion. They just mark you out as someone with a grudge who's trying to wage a one man war. What your son's college has done won't even register as a blip at the 'plex. If your suggestion is that it is evidence of a mass movement away from Google you couldn't be more wrong. Have a look at Hitwise data. And if they have problems with there (sic) capacity servers (sic) how come they're devoting processing power to updating the directory? So, do yourself a favour, find another war.

[brixton]

Macro i just telling the trouth,that's all

[cleanup]

Look Google and Yahoo both tried the "local" and eventually gave it up.

Brixton. whatever, 10%,25% even if it were up to 90% of the web that is offered by the .co.uk version compared to the .com why would that be better?

Remember a huge number of sites that are NOT hosted in the UK just do not appear in msn.co.uk.

Anyway I thought the thread for MSN localization was [webmasterworld.com...]

[walkman]

yp,
the results seem to have settled. Another brilliant update. To come to my site (many people still type domain.com in SEs instead of the address bar) now people have to click to one of the 200+ websites that links to me, find the link and then click. Very relevant results. Your stock should tripple to $600 so those brainy PHDs become mega-millionaires instead of just millionaires.

GoogleGuy: if I say that I don't plan on using Adwords, will my site get restored to its former glory? Thanks

[brixton]

anyway I don't have any vendetta with google or anybody I have over 50 domains some are doing well some are doing bad, there is no update can hurt me because every day my average income is stable IE loosing from there gain from there, and I don't play only with Google,today I just got 2 new 4 years PR5 old domains to replace them with the domains that disappear with that new update(within a week i will be in the place i was). I am a black hut SEO and I am happy to say that because that's the way I can survive financially against the big fish.

[Whoa]

In terms of identifying why some sites have gone MIA and others have not, I have this to contribute:

I work on six or seven sites.

Only one is experiencing MIA. By MIA, I mean that you search for x when your domain is x.com and x is a unique phrase, and in the results you come up way low, whereas you used to come up #1. Beyond that, you are buried in the SERPs on phrases you used to do well on. You were Top Ten and not you are #89, for example. But not just for a few phrases; you appear to have dropped 50 or so spots for everything. It's as if a penalty is being applied to you, yet you cannot think of anything you've done to earn MIA status.

Here are some attributes of my MIA site:

- Around 5,000 pages in total
- ASP based
- Uses ID= tag in ASP string
- Has some redirects from old .htm pages to new .asp pags
- Cascading javascript menus
- mini-site map for navigation in the footer
- changed rightnav.asp (global change for the site) just when Allegra started updating
- Used to get about 2,000 Google visitors per day, now get about 25 a day.
- I found a duplicate site at www.excite.co.jp
- I have a Commission Junction affiliate ad in the left nav on every page.
- Adsense on every page (Adsense $ dropped considerably post Allegra)
- Google shows 289 backlinks, Yahoo shows 1270, AlltheWeb shows 1140.
- Never paid for a backlink. All backlinks are legit and 99% are unsolicited.
- Add new content frequently (maybe three or four articles per week)
- Found some sites out there with identical title, description, and keyword tags for the main page.
- Have a glossary of terms on the site

The thing is I don't have a clue why this site would be treated so poorly by this update. Of the things I list above, the only thing that is unique to this site versus my other six or so is that I updated my rightnav.asp just as Allegra was starting. My only theory is that somehow Google saw that all the pages were different, just as it was starting the index and said "I can't treat this site the way I was planning on treating it, because everything has changed. I need to wait, re-spider it, and then add it."

Any ideas?

[Rollo]

I guess the dance continues. Last night I had fallen out of all data centers and resigned myself to another few months in the sand. I checked again this morning and I'm back in the data centers I was in yesterday, plus several new ones. This has to be the strangest update of all time...

[walkman]

"In terms of identifying why some sites have gone MIA and others have not, I have this to contribute:"

It's a Google problem in my opinion. Sites of all kinds have been caught in this. Let's hope they are working on it, but I have lost hope. I know it's bad to lose hope, but G has lost a lot of respect in my eyes. First they let the 302 redirect issue unsolved for months as we got creamed and now this.

Hmmm...I'm back at some DCs. Still hoping ;)

[brixton]

"G has lost a lot of respect"
no coments.

[brixton]

Great news "Google Stock Price"
went to the #3 from the key word (F..G)