Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

[illusionist]

My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

[glitterball]

It means your still in the index and you have not been banned.

Okay, let me be specific:

If I search for "mydomainname.com" the only listing is on the 3rd page and looks like this:

mydomainname.com/
Similar pages

If I search for any of the terms that I used to rank well for, the site does not appear at all.

I still have pagerank (in the toolbar anyway) and Google has fresh cached verions of all of my pages.

If I search for a very long sentence (25 words) then my page miraculously appears as a normal result with Title, link cached version etc.

Noticed one very odd thing in the results for "mydomainname.com" though. On the 3rd page of results (the results are obviously pages that link to me) there is a site that quite obviously shouldn't be there. When I click on the link, the page has no mention of my website, stranger still is that when I try to view the cached version, it redirects also.

[zafile]

"People can link you whether you like it or not! It's freedom of speech, here in USA anyway."

Go ahead now, Google now seems to distinguish good links from bad ones. Before February 1, 2005, that was a problem.

"news": pretty relevant results.

[diddlydazz]

hi theBear

on 216.239.53.99 for news i am seeing

1. www.cnn.com
2. www.bbc.co.uk
3. www.foxnews.com
4. www.abcnews.go.com
5. news.google.com
6. www.cbsnews.com
7. news.yahoo.com
8. www.wired.com
9. www.msnbc.msn.com
10. www.usnews.com

which data center are you referring to?

dazz

[Chico_Loco]

What he's saying is that news.google.com is listed, when really they should never be competing with those other names, I think! And that it's ironic scraper sites don't rank, but the google news site scrapes content but it ranks.

[theBear]

no zafile,

If I want to link to your site I will link to your site, now google if it operates correctly will not hold that against you.

Not that I would probably be interested, you probably also whouldn't be interested in any of the two sites I work on either. But we have one large niche content site on 5 servers and one small specility ecom site.

I was going through some of the 9100 files in one section of the site looking for some things several nights ago when I first read this thread. We also have a forum that has many thousands of threads related to our niche area.

I have never seen google hold inbound links against one.

The only downside might be extra traffic, but the last I knew traffic is what you wanted when you placed a web site on a publiclly accesible server. Who knows you might get a loyal customer.

[diddlydazz]

ahh,i need sleep!

[theBear]

Try the one that starts news. ;)

[zafile]

"Please, tell me it will get better or if it's not going to, what are your recomendations?"

Short term approach: AdWords campaign.

Long term approach: Start from scratch, follow the steps indicated at [webmasterworld.com...]

Don't mix the steps with "alternative" strategies. Sooner or later, you'll get caught.

[glitterball]

Is it possible that this disappearing site issue might be a bug introduced inadvertantly by this update?

I just noticed that the only site of mine that was dropped was the one where I didn't have a redirect from the [mydomain.com...] to [mydomain.com....]

Anyone else?

[theBear]

It is possible glitterball.

Yahoo went through that problem a few times and from the looks of things MSN has that problem currently .... and it can make a huge difference if links get missed.