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Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

         

illusionist

1:34 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

WebFusion

3:21 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Google does not improove the picture of USA instead it makes it worst

Let's not take a problem your having with your website and make it into an insult to the U.S.

....or have I missed the high-traffic competing search engine based in any other country?

theBear

3:21 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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WebFusion,

What? You mean you don't send out any of those drug related solicitations I get in my email every time I get my new messages.

I tell you I'm shocked, totally shocked ;).

I see things are still churning at the data centers, time to work on more html file size reductions and other stuff.

Analysis of index update, filter tweaks, and algo changes if any will prove interesting. I tried to track a couple of pages yesterday but I couldn't get a solid picture.

Macro

3:23 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Maybe the college's IT manager is moonlighting with a string of scraper sites that got nuked by Google?

LOL

[edited by: Macro at 4:16 pm (utc) on Feb. 8, 2005]

soapystar

3:32 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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just had a call from my son ,he told me that in his college they have change the default search engine from google to MSN.co.uk.does that tell you something?

no. If you gave us a specific reason it might help.

walkman

4:39 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)



my website still shows up where it should on the DCs you mentioned. This is the data of Feb 2nd or so, before the second update (all within Allegra). Google updated it once and then changed it again. Looks like they have to figure something to merge them and not leave any index pages out.

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"This data center has what I recently saw and what I expect [216.239.39.104...]
this [216.239.37.99...] is showing some terrible stuff ( for me )
The interesting thing ( to me ) is that both have updated the pages with my recent deep crawl on the 6th and 7th and I am seeing my new pages on both.
Are there any conclusions to be drawn from that?
Is it safe to say that the update is an algo change only not a change in the data being used? "

soquinn

4:48 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm… if anything, it’s very clear that diversification is the key and will certainly warrant more discussion. Some sites I monitor have fluxed for the first time others have not been effected but have been effected in the past. Google, unfortunately, has had the power, market share and naturally our attention as we all try to benefit from their reach. I expect we’ll see more of these issues whether it’s on purpose or just glitches as time goes on and it will not be limited to Google. We all need to think about how best to create, advertise and grow our respective businesses… online diversification will be reinvented.

<notSEdependant> Maybe we’ll call it “SED” (Search Engine Diversification) or “SOS” (Search Operability Strategy) someone can start SearchEngineDiversificationWorld dotcom (Brett?) </notSEdependant>

Ultimately, I’d like to see more competition in the search game; after all, the economics of search (millions of websites/businesses distributed to the world through a few major players) has spawned enormous advertising dollars driving some webmasters to corner traffic for advertising and not for end users. At the end of the day it’s all about traffic = money!

An interesting model would be “PPB” (Pay Per Bot) you get a one-year express inclusion in our robots.txt to spider all our pages for only $299(recurring annually in subsequent years to update your SERP’s.) to hard for webmasters to manage? No problem, hosts and ISP's can be the intermediaries and do a revenue share. :-)

vabtz

4:53 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)



Well for myself I get 38 % of my traffic from google 33% from yahoo and 16% from msn so I am doing fine as far as thats concerned.

phantombookman

4:54 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The condemnation for MSN.co.uk is because only UK-hosted sites appear in the SERPS

All my sites are .com and hosted in the USA yet they appear in msn.co.uk serps, granted not quite as high in the serps as .com but they are there?

robster124

5:09 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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my website still shows up where it should on the DCs you mentioned. This is the data of Feb 2nd or so, before the second update (all within Allegra). Google updated it once and then changed it again. Looks like they have to figure something to merge them and not leave any index pages out.

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I hope you've got this right Walkman. If they do merge the 2 indices, Google will actually have things bang on track.

wanderingmind

5:54 pm on Feb 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's been 3 days of ups and downs dancing across datacenters. Isn't it time it settled down?

I love Brixton. He is admittedly black hat, gets hit by Google, and cries foul.

Would Hannibal Lecter ask for forgiveness from PETA?

Would Darth Vader ask for justice from the libertarian party?

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