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Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

         

illusionist

1:34 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

Rollo

7:06 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Question: What is the reason that it takes Google updates so long to "settle"?

I'm out of the sandbox, then back in again, then out, then in.

Jalinder

7:11 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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steveb, I agree. I am sure once it settles SERPS will be best possible, technically. Until it settles there will be some like the examples we are seeing, but lets wait.

Watching this google update is fun and also a learning experience. Sites coming out of sandbox is good. Sandbox was anyway not good approach by google to fight spam. Say a new good site on Tsunami help deserves good listing asap.

As of now we can't reach any conclusions, but from current observations (by members discussing in this and other threads) looks like sites most affected are:
1. sites which are doing redirects
2. directories (excluding the top ones)
3. sites with duplicate content

Any thoughts?

valeyard

7:35 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As of now we can't reach any conclusions, but from current observations (by members discussing in this and other threads) looks like sites most affected are:
1. sites which are doing redirects
2. directories (excluding the top ones)
3. sites with duplicate content

None of those apply to my lost sites, so there must be something else going on.

If it is just an incomplete update or Google still fiddling with their knobs then in some ways that's worse. What other company would roll out an untested multi-day update on a live system with millions of users - without even telling the users that an update was underway or when it was expected to finish?

Even if Google do sort out the SERPS, the loss of goodwill resulting from their communication failure will cost them dearly.

KrisVal

7:42 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My actual serps for subpages have gone up it seems with this update, but the weirdest thing has happened.

Now, when you search for my web site without the www. or .com, it is nowhere to be found. This is not a particularly competitive term. My site has been #1 for this for a year as it should be. It is the domain name and actually a trademarked brand for this particular service. No keywords in the neame like My-Keyword-Keyword-Site. Simply www. mysitename .com. I am not sure if this has happended to anyone else with this update. I would like to hear.

I will leave with one caveat. I did slightly change the title on my site late last week and I hopeful that Google just hasn't re-ranked my main index page. Should have waited until this update was over maybe?

walkman

7:49 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)



"It's like drawing conclusions about a car when it is halfway through the assembly line: "hey that car is broken!" "

well, if GM puts that car in the showroom and offers it for sale /test-drives, what are we to think? The horrible results are on Google.com, not on an obscure DC.

steveb

8:24 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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They have to push the terrabytes worth of results onto the datacenters somehow. It's unreasonable to expect they can just snap their fingers and do it, especially considering we are talking about something involving nearly a year's worth of new sites (or minamally the older half of that year long queue).

Another couple days is reasonable. Another couple weeks would be broken.

diddlydazz

8:36 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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KrisVal <-- web site without the www. or .com, it is nowhere to be found -->

I am seeing a lot of that too, sites that link to a domain coming above the actual domain.

Dazz

Whoa

8:58 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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But seriously, all of you who are promoting the idea that the press should get a hold of this also need a reality check. Try explaining what happened here to Joe Public - no chance!

You obviously are not in the PR biz. This would be a trivial story to place. I just have chosen not to place it.

Chico_Loco

8:59 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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web site without the www. or .com, it is nowhere to be found

I'm seeing a lot of this, and I am worried. My domain name is the brand name of my company, and I know people search for my company using that word, but they will see a different thing 1st. They have to click on one thing and then click through to me - crazy. Isn't this misrepresentation of my brand or something?

Usually, the 1st result is a scaper site with passages from my site and a link to it - How is that more relavant that my site.. so why wouldn't it be #1.

These other scaper sites also have links to competitors, so I could easily be loosing business based on my own brand name :(

suggy

9:12 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Whoa; I bet Google are quaking in their boots - Not.
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